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Hey everybody, so since I just finished all 13 episodes of Race to the Edge (Thanks empty paypal account!), I'm hyped up on...well...hype, I guess. Anyway, I thought maybe we should have a thread for discussions about the episodes' content, to avoid posting spoilers in places where someone who hasn't seen anything yet can find them. So, just in case you don't get the message and don't won't things to be ruined for you - SPOILERS AHEAD (Well, not exactly in this first post but...you get what I mean.)

 

I just...IT WAS SO GOOD. Much better than the first two seasons, if you ask me. They've really gotten better with humor and other asthetics of the show. Not to say it's perfect, it was just really awesome. they even improved the humor with the Twins, which was one of the main gripes I had with Riders and Defenders.

 

So, anyone wanna talk about this awesomeness?

 

 

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IT WAS SO AMAZE

IT WAS SO AMAZE HURGNOGNIFHUVFRJVF

 

I JUST FINISHED IT AND LOOKED ON TUMBLR AND HEARD WHERE NO ONE GOES AND GOT HIT BY A WAVE OF HTTYD NOSTALGIA

 

ALSO CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW MANY PARALLELS TO HTTYD 1 IT HAD

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I MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE

I MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE PARALLEL TO HTTYD 2 WHEN ASTRID PUSHED HICCUP OUT OF THE WAY OF THE DEATHSONG SPIT

 

ASTRID NO DON'T DO IT THE STOICK WAY DX

 

I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE ANYTHING LIKE HTTYD 1 PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME

 

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OMG THAT PARTI NOTICED IT

OMG THAT PART

I NOTICED IT TOO

 

THE HTTYD 1 PARTS I NOTCED WERE

 

TOOTHLESS CURLING AROUND BLOWING FIRE ON THE GROUND

TOOTHLESS COVERING HIS FACE WITH HIS TAIL

HICCUP AND TOOTHLESS FALLING (Hiccup says, "Not again," I think)

THERE WERE MORE BUT I FORGOT

 

 

AND I TOTALLY THOUGHT HEATHER WAS HICCUP'S SISTER

IT WOULD'VE FIT SO MUCH BETTER INSTEAD OF DAGUR'S SISTER

I MEAN, THEY ACTUALLY LOOK ALIKE AND THEY HAVE THE SAME EYES AND EVERYTHING

 

ALSO CAN WE TALK ABOUT GUSTAV

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PUBERTY DOES THINGS TO PEOPLE just like with Hiccup ouo
 

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I kinda fangirled a bit over

I kinda fangirled a bit over Gustav. quq... I'm not ashamed about it.

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I DID TOO AND I AM NOT

I DID TOO AND I AM NOT ASHAMED EITHER

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I KNOW I PAUSED THE EPISODE

I KNOW I PAUSED THE EPISODE LIKE "IS HEATHER HIS SISTER OMFG" BUT THEN THEY SAID DAGUR AND I WAS LIKE "THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK ALIKE" THE WRITERS KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, THEY WANTED US TO THINK SHE WAS HICCUP'S SISTER

 

THEY WERE TROLLING US

 

GUSTAV GREW MORE IN 3 YEARS THAN I HAVE IN MY WHOLE LIVE AND HE'S ONLY A YEAR OLDER THAN I AM ;-;

 

granted girls grow less than boys but C'MON MAN 

 

I KNOW THIS IS ANIMATION BUT CAN I BE ANIMATED THEN 

 

 

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I PAUSED IT TO LET MY DOG

I PAUSED IT TO LET MY DOG OUTSIDE AND I WAS LIKE

 

"IS HEATHER HICCUP'S SISTER? IF SHE IS I SWEAR..." EXCEPT IT WAS LIKE HAPPY BECAUSE I WOULDVE BEEN OK WITH IT TBH

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I feel like a lot of people

I feel like a lot of people would have been mad, but I WOULD'VE LOVED IT EITHER WAY.

 

WE NEED MORE PLOT TWISTS

 

RUFF AND TUFF ACTUALLY AREN'T TWINS :O

 

dun dun dun

 

STUFF LIKE THAT

 

I JUST WISH HEATHER ACTUALLY LOOKED LIKE DAGUR.

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The Heather this caught me a

The Heather this caught me a bit off guard, too.

 

I actually had my money on her being Alvin's kid since him and Stoick used to be such close friends. I think it was the dark hair that had me on that train of thought.

 

But it does make sense that she wound up as Dagur's, since he's still the main villain thus far in the new series. Plus the whole angsty enemy-turns-out-to-be-family trope should have been a pretty big tip-off.

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I realize that's why they did

I realize that's why they did it - but her adopted parents looked more like her than her own brother. Maybe they had different mothers, but I just can't find anything similar in them. I seriously doubt when Heather was first thought up, she was meant to be Dagur's sister. Maybe it was for "element of surprise", but at least make it so when we find out we say, ''Oh, I see now!" I'm just gonna keep thinking they possibly have different mothers, because Heather looks absolutely NOTHING like him. Granted, we haven't seen their parents, but, I just can't see it.

 

I would have believed your theory more. She does look a bit like Alvin, and maybe him kidnapping her adopted parents would have been hidden angst about losing his daughter.

 

I mentioned this in another reply, but the whole reason I was buying the Hiccup has a sister trick bait was their similarities. Hiccup and Heather have similar facial structure (in my opinion) and when they hugged in that episode, they practically looked like the same person, just genderbent.

 

I'm still stumped as to why Stoick seemed so hesitant about the question. If it wasn't true, then why act like that? I realize it was msot likely to trick us all (and I fell for it)  but that didn't match his character to me. If I was Stoick and I had been asked that, I would have probably laughed my butt off. Perhaps it made him think of Valka's disappearance, and he wanted to say something like, "We wanted to have another child, but then..."

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Im just asking if we see fang

Im just asking if we see fang hook again and heather is dagurs sister is that true!

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Both are indeed true.

Both are indeed true. Although the Heather episode is a gigantic troll fest, but yes, it's true.

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Cool fang hook is awesome

Cool fang hook is awesome  ,but then that would mean that would mean we have seen heathers and dagurs parents so we now know who asvald the agreeable is.

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Well it's a bit more complex

Well it's a bit more complex than that, but I'm not gonna spoil anything unless you want me to. All I'm gonna say is...that's not completely right.

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I dont mind you spoiling

I dont mind you spoiling since I cant even get into netflix because it wont load

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If you really don't mind, and

If you really don't mind, and if you're curious, then here you go;

 

Heather's parents in that one episode were her adopted parents. She was separated from her true family as a baby.

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Can we talk about Heather and

Can we talk about Heather and Astrid because their relationship is my new friendship goal. I need a friend like that.

 

Also that girl talk tho. 

 

"So you and him are a thing right?"

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What is this "Subject" you speak of?

I just finished all the episodes with my siblings, and we're currently going crazy. HEATHER AND DAGUR ARE BROTHER AND SISTER?! HEATHER LIKES FISHLEGS?! RUFFNUT AND TUFFNUT HATE THE LETTER "S". (I'M TALKING IN CAPS BECAUSE OF HOW CRAZY AWESOME THIS ALL WAS). COULD WE TALK ABOUT HOW AWESOME WINDSHEAR IS?! FISHLEGS-I MEAN THOR BONECRUSHER IS THE BEST. AHHHHHHHHH!!!!! SO MUCH HYPE AND WAITING, BUT IT WAS ALL WORTH IT!

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WINDSHEAR WAS A TOTAL BOSS,

WINDSHEAR WAS A TOTAL BOSS, LIKE, I NEED A RAZORWHIP NOW

 

 

EVERYTHING IN THE HEATHER 2 PARTER WAS JUST AMAZING. I LOVED IT ALL...UGH THIS WAS SO GREAT

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What's this "Subject" thing? I've never heard of it.

THE SUSPENSE KILLED ME! I KNEW DAGUR WOULD END UP HER BROTHER! IT SEEMS SO WEIRD, THOUGH!

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THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK ALIKE

THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK ALIKE BUT HEY AT LEAST THEY HAD THE DECENCY TO TRY AND TROLL US WITH HER BEING HICCUP'S SIS XD

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I just finished The Next Big

I just finished The Next Big Sting and WE GET TO SEE HICCUP DEVELOP THE FLIGHT SUIT. And the speed stinger was so cute.

 

Heather being Dagur's sister makes more sense than her being Hiccup since in both movies, Hiccup is protrayed as an only child. If Heather was Hiccup's sister then she would have probably been in or at least mentionned in HTTYD 2. Also her leaving again makes sense since she isn't in HTTYD 2 (if she stayed, she probably would have been seen in the background in HTTYD 2). Also love Heather and Astrid's relationship.

 

Crushing It was such a sweet episode, loved seeing Stoick meet Skullcrusher! 

 

I'll edit this post after finishing it with all my thoughts about it.

 

 

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Yeah, that's why when I was

Yeah, that's why when I was watching the episode I stopped and was like "This'd be a cool plot twist but HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!?" Although I probably wouldn't have cared too much about her being his sister because they could have played off her leaving as that being her never going back and just living as a loner with Windshear forever.

 

Of course if they did make Heather Hiccup's sister and left NO EXPLANATION whatsoever, I'd be mad. 

 

They could have gotten away with it though. Not completely, but it is possible. Like, she wasn't in flashbacks or anything because back then females weren't all that important, and chiefs wanted sons, so he abandoned her at a young age, etc. That actualy could be why Oswald left her, actually. I hope we learn more about her past.

 

I agree Dagur makes more sense continuity wise. I just want them to, I dunno, look alike. The thing that initially made me believe Hiccup would end up having a sister after him realizing the horn was his father's was the fact that Heather looks so much like Hiccup. The eyes, overall shape of the face...it just kinda matched up. Yet she looks absolutely NOTHING like Dagur. I know some siblings can be pretty far out when it comes to resemblance, but there is no trace to me of any similarity. I honestly think she wasn't planned to be his sister, and it was a more recent decision. 

 

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YEAH!!!

I JUST FINISHED RACE TO THE EDGE TOO are there going to be more episodes there must be this cant be the end already

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I think there is. There's NO

I think there is. There's NO WAY this is going to end with Dagur just out loose, and right after we found out him and Heather are related. Plus I remember reading somewhere that something that was promised to happen in RTTE (Don't remember exactly what) hasn't happened in these 13 episodes, so I'm pretty sure there'll be more.

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i hope so

i wonder if we wil see heather and her razorwhip again and the dragons eye i beleive is kiccups fire sword/zippleback gas thing he used in the second movie because it released gas like hiccups thing did  and did anyone notice toothless has some designs in his scales

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Oh snap wait a minute, isn't

Oh snap wait a minute, isn't that one of the things we were told we'd be shown in Race to the Edge? The making of the Flight Suit AND his fire sword thing (Forgot what that's called)? Maybe the he gets the idea of its design from the Dragon Eye.

 

Wait, what designs?

 

 

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well if u look closley

if u look closley at toothles u see gray designs on toothless and perhaps that not exactly his word thing 

 

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u see there on toothless's neck those gray designs

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Hmm, I figured that's just

Hmm, I figured that's just how they designed his scales. But who knows, it could be something.

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Those scale patterns have

Those scale patterns have always been there. It's just that Toothless is a lot lighter in the series than he is in the movies, so it's easier to see his markings.

 

If you grab a screencap from the movies and play wih the contrast in an editing program you'll find the same markings

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Yeah, that's what I was

Yeah, that's what I was assuming, cause I swear he had very faint, lighter blotches in the first movie. And in the other seasons of the show, he looked a bit more patterned.

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There are gonna be 52

There are gonna be 52 episodes in increments of 13, so there are going to be a lot more ^^

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OMG PLEASE PLEASE HAPPEN I NEED OUR DRAGON RIDERS TO SING I WILL hideIF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN

 

 

Welp, all aboard the hype train!

 

Also, "About half the episodes will contain completely new dragons" YES PLEASE. I need more dragons...

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Think I've seen those in the

Think I've seen those in the first movie, actually - he just has really faint leopard-like markings.

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SPOILERS HERE!!!

I LOVE IT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!! IT WAS AWESOME AND SUSPENSEFUL AND...... O.O I LEARNED SO MANY SECRETS!!!!! I literally screamed when I figured out that Heather was Dagur's sister and I was so happy to see how Stoick came to have Skullcrusher!!! And man, Heather looked awesome!!! I loved her dragon too! But I hope that there will be more because I wanna see how Gobber and the riders came across a Hotburple. I also REALLY VERY MUCH SO wanna see more new dragons!!!!!

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I wanna see the Hotburple

I wanna see the Hotburple too, because I bet that episode will be FUNNY.

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i wonder where alvin is in this and yeah i hope we find out when they discover the hotburple and even the snafflefang maybe and speed stingers are a trainable hiccup just trained one i wonder what other dragons we will see will we see the snow wraith and the deathsong again or the catastropic qauke

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I was under the impression

I was under the impression Dagur had been in Alvin's prison...those looked like his men...but maybe not? IDK, hoping we'll see him though.

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ikr and titan wing nightmare that means rob game was most likelye created by dreamworks or something since titan dragons are in this seris and totally unlikley but wil we see rob dragons in it its totally unlikely though :)

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I would bet 50 bucks that

I would bet 50 bucks that episode would feature Tuff and/or Ruff calling the Grapple Grounder a snake with legs.

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Wait...SERIOUSLY!? Okay this

Wait...SERIOUSLY!? Okay this is WEIRD. I need an explanation for this. How am I reading your mind? Do we actually have a telepathic connection!? What's going on!?

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I PAUSED THE VIDEO AND SAID

I PAUSED THE VIDEO AND SAID "RISE OF BERK IS REAL CONFIRMED" THEN WENT BACK TO WATCHING

 

WINDSHEAR IS A BOSS

HEATHER IS A BOSS

HICCUP IS A BOSS

ASTRID IS A BOSS

THE TWINS ARE BOSSES

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*PLOT TWIST*   WE'RE SIBLINGS

*PLOT TWIST*

 

WE'RE SIBLINGS SEPARATED AT BIRTH

 

WE'RE HEATHER AND DAGUR 

 

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I'm really, really enjoying

I'm really, really enjoying the series so far. I think they're doing an excellent job with the characters and they're off to a good start with a handful of really interesting episodes.

 

I love the new dragons and how they're already tying the two movies together so quickly. They've also left if off at a good place. With so many loose ends people will be sure to watch the next chunk of episodes they release in order to see if they get any more answers.

 

And I love all the references and jokes they're making about the second movie. Like in the last episode when Fishlegs was explaining that it wasn't uncommon for two male dragons to fight over a female and Ruffnut makes the comment about how some Vikings will do the same, though she hadn't personally experienced it. They're just really fun little winks and nods for the audience to pick up on.

 

I gotta say, having the twins devote themselves to Loki was a really nice addition to expand on their culture, too. Like they make references to Odin and Thor a whole lot, particularly as stand-ins for swearing, but adding this new layer was a really good way to help tie the culture and mythology in even more much like in the previous seasons when they believed Thor was angry at the village because lightning was striking the metal landing posts. World building is really important for these kinds of things and I really love seeing these little details worked in.

 

That, and it opens them up for pop culture refences for the viewers to pick up on and enjoy. Like "Loki'd!", which Tom Hiddleston took up saying for pranks and fun. There were a number of other refernces I picked up, but of course now I can't think of any others off the top of my head. And I'm sure you could rewatch the episodes several times and pick up something new each time you did.

 

The Dreamworks team is off to a really good start with this new series and I'm really eager to see more of it.

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Definitely agree with

Definitely agree with everything you've said here :). There are so many major improvements (Though, the "Everyone thinks Ruff's a boy" joke is getting old fast) and I can't wait for the rest of the episodes. Never knew about the Loki'd thing - makes me appreciate this show even more. Now I gotta find all the references I missed!

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I totally agree with the

I totally agree with the Ruffnut-is-like-a-boy jokes.

 

Like I can appreciate how candid she is about her "unladylike" qualities (ie. her joking in a previous series that her brother likes his back hair almost as much she likes hers) but I'm really over them using those qualities as the butt of a joke.

 

The new series used this low-hanging fruit more often than I was expecting and I really hope they pull back from it in future episodes.

 

I mean, I guess the same could be said about her joking fairly often that Tuffnutt is feminine, but at the same time she usually uses it as a comeback to him taking jabs at her being less feminine in the first place so I can more readiy forgive those.

 

There's better jokes that could be made about those two than poking fun at their masculinity/femininity (and also poking at other characters for those same traits come to think of it) and I hope that's something that will be improved upon.

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Definitely - it was kinda

Definitely - it was kinda cute the first time, and Dagur's remark on it was a bit clever, but all the other times made me stop and go, "Really?" I mean, she may not be feminine, but are any of the viking females we've seen? Possibly old Heather, but that's about it for me. The only reason Astrid isn't referred to that way is because she's like a beauty icon out on Berk. She's a bit more feminine than Ruff, definitely, but not enough to excuse her from those remarks. Ruffnut doesn't even look completely identical to Tuffnut, it'd be easy to tell the difference between them.

 

I legitimately feel bad for Ruffnut when I watch this show. She's reduced to a braindead bimbo that everyone thinks is a guy for some unknown reason. Her movie counterpart is so much better, and still is, even if they've improved her intelligence just a little. Of course in HTTYD 2 she becomes a crazed fangirl. But that fits her. Keyword "crazed" here. She's the insane one and I like that about her. I mean in the first movie she literally tells Hiccup,

 

"You're crazy! I like that."

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