Model errors

14 replies [Last post]
CujoQueenston's picture
CujoQueenston
Offline
Wilderness Explorer
Joined: 01/14/2015

For a good while now there have been some dragons that have problems with their models.
These dragons and problems are:
Silquifier: baby, while sitting; mouth, all ages agape/not moving/little moving; baby, one toe bugging while sitting
Prickleboggle, raincutter, mudraker, moldruffle, snafflefang: tongue stiff, forward, tip peeking through the mouth

I found these. If there's more tell me in a reply!

And to the devs:
Please consider improving these models! Me, and many other players would appreciate it if you did!

__________________
SilverAceWing's picture
SilverAceWing
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 05/29/2020
M.Nightmare

The Monstrous nightmare 

 

The in-game model : 

     

 

The original animation : 

Look at their faces. The game model's expression shows a very big difference between the original animation model. The game model's eyes are half-closed, and it doesn't seem ferocious like the original. I thought monstrous nightmares were supposed to be fierce.

__________________
 
 
Scroll down below!

 

Welcome to my signature!

 

 

This is Skylight, guardian of my siggy, created by the amazing Sohki!

 

 

* IN CONSTRUCTION *

For now :)

 

 

♦ Celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ! 

 

a.k.a

 

Merry Christmas!

SilverNight's picture
SilverNight
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 11/27/2017
My main problem with

My main problem with Monstrous Nightmares is the texture where the head meets the neck

Did they just..... forget to draw the texture for the rest of the neck and onto the head?

 

__________________

Some stuff about me:

Name: Morgan

Age: 20

In-Game Name: XWraithRacerX

My Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/silvernight290/

 

My Dragons:

Dragonriders Fury's picture
Dragonriders Fury
Online
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 08/25/2018
Funny story about that... XD

Actually, looking at the texture files, it appears that's exactly what happened.

__________________

Proverbs 25:11

A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Proverbs 15:1

A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

~!{0}!~

 

What is a friend?A single soul...Dwelling in two bodies.

Amesome Secret Odin 2019 GIFt set from the amazing Inhonoredglory of Berk's Grapevine! (Please, join us!)  Thanks a lot!       

 

Now, what else to put here?  How about nothing. For now... :D

Dragonriders Fury's picture
Dragonriders Fury
Online
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 08/25/2018
Heyy, guess what?

Yeah, things could look a lot better.  I did some... adjustment, and although the texture still doesn't match, it looks vastly better.  See what I mean?

Furnaceburn, updated

Queensflame, updated

(If anyone wants the more technical explanation of what and how I did, feel free to either ask here or PM me.  I'd be happy to share. :) )

Varku's picture
Varku
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 06/14/2015
~

I'd like to mention a model error on the Titan Scauldron. It's two models stacked on top of each other. Looks like some placeholder wasn't removed before release?

__________________

★·.·´¯`·.·★ arт ιѕ нard ★·.·´¯`·.·★

Neo // Engineer, cabbage slapper, crappy artist exteme
 
 

Extra links:

 

httyyd's picture
httyyd
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 10/12/2013
Drums R Round. Pi R Squared.

A lot of the problems with textures is at what resolution is the UV map exported at?  And then, what are you exporting back into Maya?  Adobe Illustrator jpegs and pngs are better quality than Photoshop jpegs and pngs, becuase Illustrator is Vector while Photoshop is Raster.  Most UV maps are 2048x2048.  While that is fairly large, if you have a very complex model, you don't want every single thing on the same UV map.  The more you have on that 2048x2048 map, the less detailed the end result will be.  You could export a 4096x4096 map which will greatly increase the quality of the export and reimport back into the modeling software, but again, the more stuff you have on the same UV map, the less it is reflected in the final UV map.  Having multiple UV maps for the same model is how I have done projects.

__________________

Rest in Peace NarixuZen.  2004-2017

Member/Group Leader of S.O.D.A.H.T

 

Click SoD Hack Watch or SoDAHT to report a hacking:

Also use this form to help better keep track of the hackers:  (click here for form)

 

Book 10 - The Shattered Axe

Chapter 17 - Back on Track

 

The Jarl Mollerson Mystery Series

All Chapter Links
 

 

Destiny in the Dark

Chapter 3 - Friends and Enemies

 

Proud Leader and fellow member of:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are links to the chapters of my fan-fic series.  The books go in chronological order.

 

The Clue of the Missing Socks.

Chapters 1 and 2                         Chapter 3                                       Chapter 4

Chapter 5                                      Chapter 6                                        Chapter 7

Chapters 8 and 9                        Chapter 10                                     Chapter 11

Chapters 12 and 13                     Chapters 14, 15, and 16             Chapter 17

Chapter 18                                    Chapter 19                                      Chapter 20

Chapter 21 and 22                      Chapter 23                                     Chapter 24 and 25

Chapter 26 - There is a hidden surprise.  Can you find it?

Chapter 27                                   Chapter 28, Part 1                         Chapter 28, Part 2

Chapter 29                                   Chapter 30                                       Chapter 31

Chapter 32                                   Chapter 33                                       Chapter 34

Chapter 35                                   Chapter 36                                       Chapter 37

Chapter 38                                   Chapter 39                                       Chapter 40

Chapter 41                                   Chapter 42                                       Chapter 43

Chapter 44                                   Chapter 45, Parts 1 and 2

 

The Mysterious Frozen Fire

Chapter 1         Chapter 2         Chapter 3         Chapter 4         Chapter 5         Chapter 6

Chapter 7         Chapter 8         Chapter 9         Chapter 10       Chapter 11       Chapter 12

Chapter 13       Chapter 14       Chapter 15        Chapter 16       Chapter 17       Chapter 18  

Chapter 19       Chapter 20      Chapter 21        Chapter 22, Part 1       Chapter 22, Part 2 

Chapter 22, Part 3

Epilogue/Preview for my Third Story!

 

Thoughts of Guilt

Chapters 1 and 2          Chapters 3 and 4          Chapter 5          Chapter 6          Chapter 7

Chapter 8          Chapter 9          Chapter 10          Chapter 11          Chapter 12, Part 1

Chapter 12, Part 2          Chapter 13         Chapter 14         Chapter 15         Chapter 16

Chapter 17 and 18         Chapter 19         Chapter 20         Chapter 21         Chapter 22

Chapter 23         Chapter 24         Chapter 25         Chapter 26         Chapter 27

Chapter 28         Chapter 29         Chapter 30         Chapter 31         Chapter 32

Chapter 33         Chapter 34         Chapter 35         Chapter 36 and 37

Chapter 38, Part 1         Chapter 39, Part 2         Chapter 40, Part 3         Chapter 41

Chapter 42, Parts 1 and 2         Chapter 43         Chapter 44

Chapter 45, Part 1         Chapter 45, Part 2

 

On the Edge of Mystery

Chapter 1          Chapter 2         Chapter 3        Chapters 4 & 5    Chapter 6, Parts 1 and 2   

Chapter 7          Chapter 8         Chapter 9            Chapter 10       Chapter 11        Chapter 12

Chapter 13        Chapter 14       Chapter 15          Chapter 16        Chapter 17       Chapter 18

Chapter 19        Chapter 20       Chapter 21          Chapter 22       Chapter 23      Chapter 24

Chapter 25        Chapter 26       Chapter 27         Chapter 28        Chapter 29 Parts 1 and 2 

Chapter 30       Chapter 31       Chapter 32 and 33                         Chapter 34 Parts 1 and 2 

Chapter 35 Part 1         Chapter 35 Part 2        Chapter 35 Part 3        Chapter 36

 

The Secret Symbol

Chapter 1    Chapter 2    Chapter 3    Chapter 4    Chapter 5

Chapter 6    Chapter 7     Chapter 8    Chapter 9    Chapter 10

Chapter 11    Chapter 12    Chapter 13    Chapter 14    Chapter 15

Chapter 16    Chapter 17    Chapter 18    Chapter 19    Chapter 20

Chapter 21   Chapter 22   Chapter 23   Chapter 24 and 25

Chapter 26    Chapter 27    Chapter 28    Chapter 29 and 30

Chapter 31    Chapter 32    Chapter 33    Chapter 34    Chapter 35

Chapter 36    Chapter 37    Chapter 38    Chapter 39

Chapter 40 and 41    Chapter 42    Chapter 43, 44, 45, and 46

 

The Legend of Shadow Mountain

Chapter 1    Chapter 2    Chapter 3    Chapter 4    Chapter 5

Chapter 6    Chapter 7    Chapter 8    Chapter 9    Chapter 10

Chapter 11    Chapter 12    Chapter 13    Chapter 14    Chapter 15

Chapter 16   Chapter 17    Chapter 18    Chapter 19    Chapter 20

Chapter 21    Chapter 22    Chapter 23    Chapter 24    Chapter 25

Chapter 26    Chapter 27    Chapter 28    Chapter 29    Chapter 30

Chapter 31    Chapter 32    Chapter 33    Chapter 34    Chapter 35

Chapter 36    Chapter 37    Chapter 38    Chapter 39    Chapter 40

Chapter 41    Chapter 42    Chapter 43    Chapter 44    Chapter 45 & 46

Chapter 47    Chapter 48    Chapter 49    Chapter 50    Chapter 51

 

Teaser "Trailer" for Book 8 - Conquest of the Truth

 

The Crimson Storm

Chapters 1 and 2     Chapter 3    Chapter 4    Chapter 5    Chapter 6

Chapter 7    Chapter 8    Chapter 9    Chapters 10 and 11    Chapter 12

Chapter 13    Chapter 14    Chapter 15    Chapter 16    Chapter 17    Chapter 18

Chapter 19    Chapter 20    Chapter 21    Chapter 22    Chapter 23

Chapter 24    Chapter 25 and 26    Chapter 27    Chapter 28    Chapter 29

Chapter 30    Chapter 31    Chapter 32    Chapter 33    Chapter 34

Chapter 35 and Epilogue

Varku's picture
Varku
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 06/14/2015
~

A jpeg is always rasterized, whether you save it in a vector or raster program. A jpeg's further quality depends on the quality settings you set yourself, and not necessarily the program you use.

httyyd's picture
httyyd
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 10/12/2013
Drums R Round. Pi R Squared.

I know that, but I've exported many, many pictures from Illustrator and I will tell you, the export is much larger coming out of Illustrator than Photoshop.

 

Take this picture:

1280x720

Though the pictures are going off the side, this will demonstrate my point.  I only put the link into the URL and did not change the pixel dimensions

 

All Photoshop exports are at 1280x720

"save as" png:

 

"save as" jpeg:

 

Export Png:

 

Export Jpeg:

 

But now for Illustrator.  Again, in the picture image thing for the forum, all I did was put the link in.  I did not change the image size at all.

Unless the PPI (pixels per inch) resolution was changed, all Illustrator exports (can't save as a picture file, only Illustrator or PDF style file types) were the same size - 4000 x 2250

 

Export Jpeg:

 

High Quality Export Png:

 

High Quality Export Jpeg:

 

 

The only time Illustrator will ever export at a lower resolution is if the PPI is less.

Here I set it at low and the resolution export is drastically different.

Low Quality Jpeg Export:

 

My workflow is to work in Illustrator with the UV map and then Export.  Since by my examples above show Illustrator exporting at a high resoultion, my UV map will be several times bigger than whatever I export it at.

 

A 4096 x 4096 UV Map exporting with all settings on High in Illustrator is - 17067 x 17068  (I think the image got so big that it didn't think it was square anymore to have 67 instead of 68)

 

To take a picture this huge but open it in Photoshop, go to Image > Image Size.  Make sure to lock the resolution so that it stays square and then return the Illustrator Export back to 4096 x 4096.

 

Any time you make a big picture with a large resolution smaller, it will always have better quality to the human eye than a picture already at that smaller size.

 

This is why I love Illustrator.  Besides being Vector, you can get higher quality Jpegs for Models than you can using Photoshop.  Plus, Illustrator can be very accurate as it has the pen tool and shape tool.  A lot of times, UV maps will not be organically shaped to be able to paint on them without the UV map being blurry (If your UV map lines are too far apart or too close together, this will happen), the pen tool can help with making fine details either smaller or larger depending on the face you are painting on.

 

My pipeline may have one extra step with making the Illustrator Export return to the original picture's resolution, but the end quality is worth it.

Varku's picture
Varku
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 06/14/2015
~

I don't know what your settings are like but that's not supposed to happen. Dimensions shouldn't change when you save unless you change the dpi/ppi. I can open something and save it as a jpeg with quality set to 12/100/max and not spot a difference in dimensions or artifacting across Adobe programs. Of course jpegs are always lossy, but I can't spot it with my naked eye.

httyyd's picture
httyyd
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 10/12/2013
Drums R Round. Pi R Squared.

The only way to get a Png or Jpeg from Illustrator is to "export."  If you try and "save as" from Illustrator, you will only get these file types: svg, svgz, ai, ait, eps, pdf.  But if you "export" from Illustrator, you get 15 different file types to choose from, none of which are the "save as" file types.

I am using Adobe programs from the Creative Cloud for the past four years and it has always been like this.  The medium to high export ppi settings always increase the resolution for me no matter if it is png or jpeg.  When I go to "screen" quailty (72 ppi), it is always less than the original resolution.

 

One side note:  Png colors are richer and more to their actual colors, whereas Jpeg colors can be duller and seem lighter, though it depends on your document settings if it is CMYK or RGB.

Varku's picture
Varku
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 06/14/2015
~

Even when exporting, the dimensions have never changed for me unless I changed them myself.

Colours displayed mostly depend on what you view an image on. The explorer can show jpegs in different colours than your browser other programs, etc. 

 

Pngs are a rgb only format so saving a cmyk file as png will drastically change the colours due to the conversion to rgb.

httyyd's picture
httyyd
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 10/12/2013
Drums R Round. Pi R Squared.

Maybe my copies of the Adobe programs are just werid.

Varku's picture
Varku
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 06/14/2015
~

Not sure if you're using the cloud-- unless you changed a bunch of preferences? I wouldn't know which, though. I've never had any program that deals with images change an image's dimensions when saving, personally.

httyyd's picture
httyyd
Offline
Supreme Viking Champion
Joined: 10/12/2013
Drums R Round. Pi R Squared.

To check the resolutions two ways to check a picture in a post's resolution

First: If you right click the image and click on Open Image in new tab, inside the tab's title will be the resolution of the image.

 

Second: Right click on image > Open Image in new tab > Save image as > and then find the image on your computer.  Open the image using your compter's image previewer to check the resolutions.