Idea for a New (and Better) Series than Nine Realms)
90% of us can agree we hate Thunder's design and even more disturbing is that Dreamworks started singing Sweet Home Alabama when they made him. Instead of milking NLs though, I was talking to a fellow forum user named Vintages and we both agreed that a REALLY great idea for a new HTTYD spinoff series was the story of Toothless before he met Hiccup, starting from when he was a hatchling. A couple of people said Toothless was looking for NFs before Thunder was looking for NLs but actually that was Hiccup looking for NFs and Toothless went along with it, but otherwise didn't seem to care enough to bother with it himself.
But when Toothless was separated from his family/flock/group/etc. he probably WAS looking for them, or getting over their deaths. The directors confirmed Toothless was the last remaining NF. But in the series he's extremely indifferent to this sad fact. I'd love to see the closure Toothless had that would make him totally give up and not care about the possibility of finding other NFs.
Thoughts on this new series idea? Additions to the plot? Would love to hear insight on your opinions!
Toothless' past would work as a short movie rather than a series. It would still be very enjoyable to watch! I love this idea. What would work as an entire series is Valka's life right after she was taken by Cloudjumper to the Bewilderbeast's nest. If anyone deserves their own series, it's Valka. It would definitely be amazing to watch her interactions with the dragons, bonding with Cloudjumper, how she learned everything she knew about dragons, the places she explored beyond Hiccup's map, her battles with Drago and Eret, rescuing dragons from them, and most importantly her thoughts and feelings through all of that knowing she still had a family on Berk who thought she was really gone. We're missing 20 YEARS of an interesting life here!! And Dreamworks is just ignoring it and not giving this character the attention she deserves.
I agree with Era that it might work better as a short or an episode in another series. There're shorts and scenes that convey stories without words before like pixar shorts, student films or scenes like Furies in love, Forbidden friendship and Third dates but to have no talking in a long run series is very rare and amibitious and i only seen it done and done well once in "Primal" (seriously if you are 18+ or okay with blo.od go.re and hyper cartoon violence, go check that out). Not saying i myself dont love to have more of such ambitious series.
I think it would work as an episode in the anthology style series like Star wars Vision. I have said before in a different thread kinda like this one that HTTYD universe has a huge potential for spin offs with worldbuilding and wild variety of dragons like this if only they just forgot about Toothless and Hiccup and tell a completely different stories of different characters and settings AND Executed it well (Because both RR and Nine realm do fit the former bin). I wish they just left the Night fury look completely and focus on protagonist dragons with completely different looks and body shape because let face it, even Winger the Swiftwing from RR is just recolored night fury. Give me a boy bond with a gronckle. Give me a hunter story with their pet deathgripper etc.
I love Era's idea of Valka prequel and i like your toothless idea so i purpose a Star wars vision style anthology series. Each episodes telling different stories that may or may not relate to the character we know set in the HTTYD universe, can be in different setting and timelines. Some past, some future, some in between. I think if i am to pitch a episode for this i would be okay with generic story about another human dragon pair just with completely different looking dragons. A terrible terror, gronckle, skrill, deathgripper, whispering death, adomibumble, thunderdrum, anything.
I agree with this. I also wished they made a series between the second qnd third movie, with the defenders, berserker, wingmaidens, all the RTTE tribes.
I have a theory that the reason Toothless never really sought out other Night Furies is that they live a solitary life until they find a mate. In "We are family", Hiccup finds a fake record of Night Furies, saying they're unfriendly to other dragons. Now, this was just a rouse, but it makes you wonder. There are no Night Fury indicators anywhere. Not even on Vanahiem, the universal retirement island and final resting place of all dragons. In Gift of the Night Fury, Toothless showed no interest in seeking out a mate, even if he wasn't to find one. He innocently went to retrieve Hiccup's helmet while all the other dragons went off to spawn. Night Furies don't seem to associate with other dragons by choice, which brings us to the first movie.
The dragons lived under the Red Death's iron fist, and would likely just leave if they could. Problem is, she can vastly overpower the entire flock, and any act of rebellion would likely be met with severe punishment. Toothless may have been a Night Fury, but it's likely that a large enough group of the common 4 species could overpower him, instructed to by the Red Death in a sort of "Bring him back, or your own loved ones will be eaten" manner. Even if he never brought back food, she likely saw success sending him out as a distraction so the other dragons could steal more food. It's entirely possible that Toothless had somehow been taken into the flock against his will from the start, if he didn't simply join it and find himself unable to leave because he was too young to fend for himself at the time. Hiccup's influence and/or Toothless' time in the Red Death's flock could have made him a little more inclined to be social with other dragons, something he very much was.
We know that Furies mate for life, and care for their young. In Toothless' time, he never did seem to crave contact from his own kind, though the other species often associated with their own. In addition to being based on a panther (panthers are raised by their mother alone before leaving her when they grow up), I theorize that the hatchlings are raised either solely by both parents, or with help from the previous clutch when they reach their teen years. Where they go, if anywhere, when it's time to "retire" is still a mystery, so it'd be nice to also see that.
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