HTTYD 3 Rant

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well yes

ok but with the razorwhip wich indicates that toothless WILL kill another dragon on his own and that was when he was not very censored unlike in the deathgripper seine. 

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We don't know what Toothless was intending to do (I would guess to NOT kill the razorwhip), but in the end he didn't.  If Hiccup was the only reason that Toothless didn't kill that dragon, then why didn't he stop Toothless when he attacked the Deathgrippers?  In that case Hiccup would be out of character.

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hiccup was under pressure

if i where living trough that sciene i would be confused and not optimaly ethical also i do not think hiccup could have stoped toothless if he tried also in the deathgripper hug sciene would you really cair if they died or not even if you would cair normaly?

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I agree that a lot of the movie was poorly executed. I h.ate how Toothless just abandons Hiccup to be with his girlfriend of a few days. Honestly, a relationship that happens that quick shouldn't technically work out. Also, I don't like when the DreamWorks peoples make the Night Fury OP. Lightning summoning? Seriously? Only one dragon can do that: the Skrill. You need metal scales to do that, or you're toast, quite literally. 

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If skrills are made of metal(or some biological substance that's similar) shouldn't they have ridiculously high armor?

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Of course they should. But, naturally, the NF apparently has better armor. Did you also know that the light fury has the exact same stats as the NF? This seemingly glittery, scaleless dragon has more armor than a skrill. Heck, it has the exact same armor stat as a razorwhip. Take a look at these stat charts. It's ridiculous. 

 
Night Fury and Light Fury

ATTACK 15

SPEED 20

ARMOR 18

FIRE POWER 14

SHOT LIMIT 6

VENOM

JAW STRENGTH 6

STEALTH 18

 

Skrill

ATTACK 14

SPEED 11/19 (riding lightning)

ARMOR 10

FIRE POWER 12

SHOT LIMIT 4

VENOM

JAW STRENGTH 5

STEALTH 18

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Here is my logic:

Arrows shot by humans can't pierce metal

Skrills are basically made of metal

Toothless got struck by a human-shot arrow

His scales must be softer than Skrill scales

 

Also, when ever since has traveling on lightning bolts been slower than flapping along at a night fury's pace?

And I think a Razorwhip has 32 armor, so even they have to admit that night furies aren't as good in that regard. But I agree about the LF thing. I don't get how a dragon that can easily be subdued with tiny darts should have that high armor.

I also feel like a skrill's firepower should be higher. 

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Also, another thing that bothers me about HTTYD: 3, is that Toothless just took over the HIdden World. Why didn't he have any challengers? "Rome wasn't built overnight" definitely applies here. It's extremely illogical that all dragons would bow down to Toothless in a few days. He's just way too OP.

Another thing: Toothless becomes really disloyal. He leaves his best friend of 6 years for a girlfriend he hasn't really met.

Grimmel's way too classic villain, too.

Also, the deathgripper issue bugs me. For all we know, deathgrippers could be like singetails: extremely lazy and harmless. Why was Hiccup willing to spare singetails, but not deathgrippers? Both: are dangerous, tried to kill him and Toothless, and are terribly misunderstood dragons. I get that not all dragons can be saved, but it bugs me that nobody even noticed or cared that dragons were just k.illed like that.

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Exactly!! Riding lightning is not slower than breaking the sound barrier (and even I'm like "A dragon that can fly faster than sound is an implausible and plain stupid idea"). 

 

For the armor thing, I looked at the first column (The "Ultimate Book of Dragons"). But even then, I don't understand why there's different stats from different sources. They should just have one column for the stats, because the idea of a NF having the same armor as a razorwhip is more stupid than them being able to fly faster than sound.

 

Also, they should just have the skrill be 20 when riding lightning, and have a slashed speed for the NF. So the NF could have a speed of 11/18 (when dive bombing).

 

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Oh my gosh thank you for mentioning that. Recently I'd been wondering that too!! Why did the Hidden World dragons accept Toothless so quickly, especially without the mind control ability? Who ruled over the Hidden World before Toothless? Why are there skrills and timberjacks underground?? NF's living in the HW would make a ton more sense since NF's are a lot like bats, and the HW is basically one big cave. Did the writers seriously never consider any of these plotholes when writing the movie?

 

Don't even get me started on Toothless being the most disloyal, hate-worthy, incompetent, h.ormonal, selfish creature to ever exist in fiction. I'm over-exaggerating, but my point still stands. I could rant about this all day long.

 

Grimmel is cliche. Love of the hunt is a meh motivation (and pretty cliche imo), but when he's compared to Viggo in the sense of sheer intelligence and creativity, Viggo reigns supreme. I think that's my main reason for being disappointed in him. Mind you, Drago was not as interesting either. 

 

Exactly!! Yet another mischaracterization. I hate this movie so much. It's a work of lazily done art. Idk if I, personally, can call it art, because I hate how plastic everyone looks and how the flying animation has no weight to it. HTTYD 1 will always reign supreme and will always, unfortunately, remind me of how terrible of an ending the series has come to. And now I hate Toothless. His character development in the first movie was tossed in the garbage in favor of Sad Ending that makes everyone love the movie just because it makes them more emotional about the series than they already were. Did I cry at the ending? Yes. Do I love the movie? Heck no. But I'd like to consider that the tears I shed were for how utterly ruined this franchise now is. This is literally the same thing that happened in Toy Story 4 (don't get me started on that movie either).

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If you are really going to rely completely on the stats, do note that the Timberjack (or was it the Typhoomerang) has the same speed as Toothless and Light Fury.

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Now that you mention it, that doesn't make much sense either.

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i seen all of them for free

i seen all of them for free on kisscartoon and 123movies and movies go i no how get all of them for free what dreamworks have i can o ways show you what stream website to go on.

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