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I want to start off by saying im flattered im good enough you have to cheat to win. On a lower note the irony is real lets recall back to a few weeks ago when Eclipse called me a hacker (like with other claims made by this certain clan, no proof was granted).. Now lets look at the videos below and see who really is a cheater. Word of advice, dont roll in the same mud you spit in. I rest my case. Hopefully the devs can take care of this problem as they have recently been helpful- shoutout to Goony for doing the most in the team <3

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CfC_VWkF2-Z/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfC_w3op-1o/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

For any confused on the videos above, this glitch can be easily exploited for cheating like EE did by using a certain part of the map to teleport to the beginning which counts as a full lap (this is how some people can finish in 50 seconds)

P.S this isnt the first time EE has ever done this either. She deliberatly uses it when racing fast racers like myself and my clanmates. 

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Alright Fiery. Im glad you're flattered to say you were only 3ish seconds behind someone you say was "cheating". (Makes some claims made by others seem less insane huh?)

yes let us recall back to a few weeks ago when I gave my opinion, to someone who asked, that I thought you hacked. I see no irony in me testing a glitch that anyone can easily do. If you want to call people cheaters for using this glitch I suggest you look no farther than your own clan first.
Oh wait- I forgot you don't care what YOUR clan does to win, but let's go crazy over one person doing it once. (Yes I've tried it a few times but you've only seen me do it once.) I'm not surprised you didn't feel obligated to report or make a big deal over your own clan members doing the same. 
You wanna start throwing AdViCe around? Try this. Stop throwing the mud you roll in on others simply because they aren't in your clan. You wanna tell everyone how you invited me to UC? Even after I had shared my opinion that you hacked? And now this after I refused. 
It's also real nice to see you kissing up to the devs. 
If you want to talk about who does it in your clan (though you've watched them do it) please talk to me in the game instead of making a big deal on the forums. I don't want to slander anyones name who doesn't deserve it. 
 

side not: stop taking advantage of people who can't take screenshots or share them as proof. 
 

As a reply to your instagram post: you claim we point fingers at ppl besides ourselves. Please know I'll be happy to leave TNLR when you kick out the UCs that use this glitch regularly. And this wasn't 'BeHiNd ThE CuRtaInS' I literally did it in front of you lol. 
 

yes I thought you hacked. But I never complained or reported you for trying out glitches. Also it's funny you call racers unknowledgeable when they occasionally beat you when no one is boosting. Does that make you unknowledgable as well? 
 

P.S. to your P.S. I don't deliberately use it when racing fast racers. This was only the third time I've done it. Once was the first time trying it and the second was against one of your own members, who wasn't just fast, but using it themselves. This time was because I thought it had disappeared when racing alone so I was checking with others. Please do take more screenshots or videos if you see me doing it again when your members are not doing it to me. 

next time you've got a beef with me don't post and try to make a drama about it, come talk to me in game. That should be easy since you're on my friend list after sending me a friend request?

I believe the irony here (and yup it do be real) is that I only tried this glitch because I watched so many UCs do it me and now you, the leader of those people are creating drama because you saw me do it once LOL. 

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I like how u throwing hate my way, yet copying my lines just a funny observation, not important but at least try to bring your own comebacks wheeeze. I think we can all agree testing is well enough but when you do it everytime against us (e.g Driftay has reported it to me mulitple times, saying you do it evrytime with her) then thats past testing sweetie. I'm not saying my whole clan is innocent, im not on 24/7 to watch them pffft, but I have elders on an no one has reported anything to me, and i know for a fact none of my elders use this. 
 

Yes, ofc use my inv to UC as a flex XD sounds like your timelines are off as well, because the inv was before u blatantly called me a hacker, and before we noticed you were in tnlr. Bringing in ur thought of me being a bad loser is irrelevant, but it touch on it, can appreciate a good racer who races fair unlike some (coughs tnlr) who start calling us hackers, using cheats, and making up random claims to try and get part of us banned from the game. 

 

in reply to your side note: giving proof instead of just making empty claims isnt 'taking advantage' and saying this makes you sound a bit incompetent just fyi. Just because your clan makes empty claims doesn't mean we will stoop to that lvl just to look good your eyes 

 

'ive only used it 3 time' Each race? Pffft my clan can vouch you use it everytime you race them. Looks like you lost count youve done it so many times XD You have excuses for three uses, u didnt mention the fourth one with me. Or the other 100 with my other clanmates pffft. 
 

We are flattered once again you like us so much you want to try and 'do what we do' but your binoculars are broken hunni bcuz we dont use that glitch XD ofc i cant vouch for all what 80 members obvs, but there have been no reports of any of my clan members doing it. Lets also add that most of my members dont use bby nls which is the only way it can be used, u on the otherhand are always using one.. almost like youre preparing for it perhaps. It is amusing how your at such a loss got defenses that you wanna try and push it back on us, when 1. youve admitted using it 2. We called you out in the first place. If we used it so much like you said why would I point it out.. this is called reasoning take notes babe. 
 

once is a bit generous it seems in this circumstance. you have done it many times not just to my main, but to my sides, my elders, their sides, basically if anyone is close to beating you, you do it last lap (kudos on tryna make it less obvs by only doing it the last lap tho) to get ahead and ultimately win. 
 

Also this was not only a call out to your cheating azz, but an awareness to the glitch, so that hopefully the devs patch it. Appreciating someones activeness to fixing our problems isnt a 'suck up' its called being a nice human- try it sometime XD

 

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EDITING TO ADD: people commenting are right, this issue is incredibly personal, and I would rather it stay personal but I won't let myself and others be completely trampled by things and not defend it. with that said; pls everyone know that what I'm saying, I'm not saying it to slander others, I'm trying to defend myself. No one even needs to read what I said unless they're going to hate me for 'cheating'.
 

for ppl who don't want to get in to anything personal here's my basic defense. 1: Yes I've done this glitch. But, I've only done it a few times in racing with others, twice as tests and once against another person who uses it. 2: fiery is angry at me for something her own clan does.     There that's it now everyone can see what I've said less personally, or if you read everything else, more personally. 
and yes I would like to see this glitch fixed, even though I've used it a few times. Moving on now; I won't say anything else on this thread unless someone besides fiery asks me something. 

Fiery pls stop attacking us, and again, if you want to talk more do it in game or PMs. 

 

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I'm not the one throwing around any hate here. Glad I could make you wheeze with laughter, tis always nice to bring joy to a day, even if the person is attacking you. When Driftray told you I did it every time, did she fail to mention that I've been with her in fortune falls once in the past week? Or did you just not say that on purpose so you can make me look even worse than the way you've painted me so far?  (Only known about the glitch for about a week) Maybe drift should take her time to watch your own clan, instead of the one you like to attack. Maybe there's a reason why she hasn't reported any UCs doing it. Tell me, if you're not on 24/7 how do you know for a fact none of your elders do it? Besides since you're so obsessed with proof why don't you ask her for some?

 

Yeah I'm preeeety sure the inv was after the whole post but ok, let's take your word for it, perhaps start looking at what clan people are in before you invite them, because you don't want to start taking in ppl from a clan you hate so much. (Or maybe you do want to take them?) and I'm not UsInG iT As A FlEx, I'm just pointing out maybe you have more motives than just getting a glitch recognized. And I never said you were a bad loser anywhere? I appreciate fair racers as much as you, probably more so. Your problem with TNLR need not be addressed here, unless you're purposefully creating more drama? Stop bringing in irrelevant things girl. 

 

 

 

 

'Just because your clan makes empty claims doesn't mean we will stoop to that lvl just to look good your eyes' excuse me, but how would this make anyone look good in anyones eyes? Plus you do anyways so- 

Your proof: one instance of someone trying a glitch and a bunch of pictures taken out of context? Great proof. Last time I checked you made just as many claims without proof as TNLR members do. 

sorry if no one believes your clan member's vouches, I mean, where's their proof? You don't care what anyone else vouched without proof. Why is your clan so much better that their wonderful words should be revered so much more than everyone else's?You're literally doing what you're hating TNLR for, making claims without proof, other than one instance of a glitch and one other instance of false proof that I'm not going into. 

my 'excuses' as you call them, are perfectly normal for anyone to do, and look at my words more carefully. I DID account for the one with you lolol get your eyes checked. 

Glad you flatter yourselves bc I doubt anyone else will flatter you. I'm not 'trying to do what you do' because I like you. I'm simply racing the same as your members. My beenoculars ain't broken, bc I don't sit back and view things from a distance, again, quit making claims that none of your members use it. Because you do. 
Im sorry if it's so suspicious of me to use my teen nightlight, the best racing dragon available to me, the same one I've used since before they respawned in any water let alone glitching ahead in the track. So yes I'm very obvs preparing for this glitch from before it even existed WOW I KNOW SOOOO MUCH.(this is sarcastic for anyone who doesn't understand tones.) Again, how do you know what dragons they use if you're not on 24/7 lol. Glad to amuse you yet again, ya seem real jolly. I'm not at a loss of defenses here, and I'm not just pushing it back on you, but seriously look at yown clan. Yes I've admitted to using it a few times, is this so wrong? You're fine with your ppl doing it. Yeah you called me out, just like you're so happy to do when any TNLR does anything sus to you, but Valhalla forbid TNLR calling out you. You should find someone to take notes bout too. 

 

You're really great at trying to prove you're right with more and more of your words, but again, pulling a fiery here where's your proof? maybe there isn't any, even though you're so obsessed with it. Find some. 
as I said feel free to keep trying to take screenshots of me doing it when it's not against yours who do it, though you won't get anything. 

 

 

Maybe try appreciating someone's activeness to fixing our problems on a post that isn't calling someone out then, if it has nothing to do with the post :)

If you wanna point out a glitch you can do so without accusing other players. This game is supposed to be fun, not dramaland. 

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Its good to see that you enjoy being a joke,  and that it even brings you joy. After all, if you cant laugh at yourself once in awhile whats the point of life. Now then, to the thick of it. 

 

Why would Drift lie for you by saying ‘it only happened once’ when it didn’t. It has never been my clan, or I to exclude information to make you look bad, you’re doing that well yourself sweetie. 

 

Are you sure its not bragging rights? Because you’re enjoying preaching about bringing up ‘irrelevant’ things, yet you mention twice about how we invited you once ages ago. Since we are on that topic already (again) though, did you forget about how your clan spam visits us, and invites us all to TNLR… I mean at least we didn’t invite the fecin leader like y’all did XD Completely irrelevant but you brought it up so why not clear that up while we are at it. 

 

Maybe if you didn’t clown around with your leader, talking censored about us, and how you want us banned, etc then you would have time to observe how tight the ship is ran here. Though ofc to no fault of you’re own if such clan business bores you, but if you’re going into the business, its wise to educate yourself for before even getting into it. 

 

Speaking of blindness, I did in fact say that I could not personally account for all 80ish of my members (sorry to disappoint) However I also stated that my elders (who are in different time zones from me and each other) watch. So really, there is at least 1 elder at all times due to time differences etc. 

 

Going into proof business, your double standards are really quite amusing. Just because YOU don’t deem our proof worthy doesn’t negate that it is, still, indeed proof. And sorry, where has been any of your proof? Oh, thats right y’all have never had a single piece, so maybe thats why you cant recognize it when you see it(just a speculation). Either way, you still have the nerve to say ‘we need proof’

 

Dont you worry though hunni, we have it, its just unsatisfactory to you, so you like to pretend it doesn’t exist, don’t ‘have enough’, or is ‘taken out of context’ (ignores the names mentioned in them, reducing the chances of it being showed ‘out of context’ to .001). If you’re going to say that we are the ones with double standards, you should look first at your own standards, and make sure your wires are uncrossed.  

 

We have satisfied the ‘proof’ debacle. You say us vouching for each other is basically invalid, but you have decided, it seems, to ignore one again that we first brought proof (yes, it is proof even if you don’t want to accept it), and now our honest words. Which is more than some can offer. To say that I am failing by my own standards, is just you adverting the attention away from your own failures of proof.

 

You have even dared us to get more proof as if you’re actually going to do it in front of us, now that we called you out. Any person with a little sense knows you guys will be watching your azzes to keep that from happening, just so you can say ‘Oh wOw No extRa PrOoF’ since your ‘innocent’ act is being far too overplayed. 

 

No offense (and you are a good racer when racing fair) but by no way close, do you race like my members’. Not to brag too much on them, but I’ll just start off by saying that if you raced even remotelyclose to them, you wouldn’t win by that much of a stretch, because it would be a truly fair race, no cheats. Yet you have beat them, (no surprise its fortune falls) and with uncanny times around 1:04-1:07 with only two boosts. Not even a pro can do that- three boosts? Possibly. Not two though. 

 

Trust me (or don’t, idc) if this only happened 1-3 times like you said, I wouldn’t bother mentioning it. Why would I go to so much trouble. We have left y’all alone for ages talking only to you on forums, when YALL started drama. And a few short exchanges when you kept asking me to visit you to talk. 

 

Its still funny how you’re soo adamant that my clan uses this glitch, (and while I cannot completely rule that claim out, as I said earlier I cant personally keep up with 80 members, ofc I did mention my elders-timezone thing and no reports) You couldn’t even name one person who Consistently, or as you say, ‘regularly’ does it, like you do.

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Literally everyone here including me is saying to be mature and move to PMs. If you wanna keep arguing go ahead- but do it in PMs. No one is even caring what we say at this point besides us. So. Move to PMs or move on

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It's also real nice to see you kissing up to the devs. 

 

I realized this could be taken as extremely rude to the devs, so I will say yes goony is helpful and should definitely (edited because I realized this read defiantly when I meant definitely) be thanked but a post accusing someone of exploiting a glitch is not the place to thank a dev. Respect to the devs but they shouldn't be mentioned in an accusation of glitch exploiter if you don't mean to report the player. If you do mean to report the player then this is not the place to thank a dev. 

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look at these strawbrains fight, dragging their petty PERSONAL drama to a public space. its literlly iRRELEVant to every body else on the forum and dis glitch has already been talked about here, ur not a hero

get a room would u 

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Yeah I guess we are strawbrains.I'm only defending myself, but I wish this had not been made public and had been brought to me in a mature way :,)

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I have actually yet to see this glitch be mentioned on forum (then again i dont come here often) but if it has been mentioned, nothing has been done yet so it doesnt hurt to once again bring it to the eyes of the devs. Respectfully also u shouldn't meddle with things you know so little about. Though I do believe you were there for when tnlr made a whole azz drama post abt bullying they couldnt prove for half of us. And like i said, as much as this was a call out to ee (bcuz we were getting annoyed at how much she uses this) its also to bring attention once again to this glitch- i wouldnt call that irrelevant but thats just me 

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1- it has been mentioned. an entire thread was made on it in fact. but alrii dats fair you have the benefit of doubt cause your account is new here nd as u said u dont check often. tho itz not really a harmful game breaking malicious evil horrible glitch so why such a rush to get it patched? :) just dont abuze it yourself lol and if someone else does, call them out INGAME instead of clowning around here

 

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as much as this was a call out to ee (bcuz we were getting annoyed at how much she uses this)

shouldnt meddle with things i know so little about? lolol then i believe the same must apply to the rest of the forum too right? nobody else knows, or cares, yet youre dragging this circus out here when it could be easily resolved in PMs. and idk sheet about you or echo but this drama thread is hella unecessary. like i said get a room. and just cuz they made a drama thread calling u all out, u will stoop to their lvl too and do the same? sheesh lmao

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Like you said, udk shet abt the relations of me and ee which is why i said u shouldnt meddle wheeze. U just acknowledged my point. The big difference about my thread and theirs is 1. I have proof to back up my claims not just 'opinons' and second, u cut out the rest of what I was saying (how convenient) where i said it was also mainly to bring attention the the glitch as well. You could also be quiet instead of replying to such 'drama' as u say it is. If you're so against it just read dont reply lol. Also no, its not the worst glitch ever but it is annoying to racers, which you should understand if you are an avid racer urself. Bcuz ppl like ee exploit it even if we dont. making the one fun thing in sod less enjoyable. 

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I'm not sure how Blueberry knowing the relations between us makes her unqualified to put in her opinion, because at that point no one else really knows the relations between us, so only I can reply to this post. And at that point why even make a public thread? Just stop with the drama, everyone's tired of it besides you and your ppl. This post was for you to accuse me of exploiting glitches,we all know it, and you won't be happy if anyone else replies on it besides other UCs who will agree with you no matter what. Don't be angry that someone is standing up against you starting tons of drama. Can you not respect anyone on this game/forum? Because you treat almost everyone else like them and their opinion is worth sheet. Again don't make the statement 'we don't' (exploit this glitch) till you take a look at your own members. 
I've made my defense, everyone can have their own opinion of me. Cut the drama, stop degrading TNLR, be mature, suck up your pride and come talk to me in the game.  Or are you too scared that no one will take enough notice of this if you do?

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Maybe you could link said thread? I seem to have missed its existance too.

 

 

But no. I'm not taking OP's side to say that. I'm just curious. Cuz if it actually is burried or something maybe a thread on the glitch would have been fine. Just....it should have been about the glitch itself rather then stating names and trying to shame somebody.

 

That glitch sounds worse then backwards racing to be honist. Letting people win in 50 seconds? Heck no. That's not fun. That's not racing. That's just a game of glitch for all.

The whole checkpoint system was litterally suppose to stop stuff like that.

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Eclipse and Fiery: I am sorry to hear about this! I have been involved in my fair share of drama, but I can definitely say that this is better served in personal messages, or, perhaps, if it is bad enough, should be reported to Goony who certainly does read his messages.  The Falls glitch I really wouldn't consider cheating since I have used it before and it's more of "glitch exploitation" but it sounds like there is a lot more to the story than just the racing glitch.  Hopefully some resolution to your mutual distrust can be found!

Blueberry: I know that drama is juicy and all that, but it certainly is not a place to post replies, mixing yourself up in the drama, as that only adds fuel to the proverbial fire.  Especially not with egregious capitalization and spelling as well as name-calling that seems an awful lot like a style from another forum user that I have run into...  Also, you said "...dragging their petty PERSONAL drama to a public space..." If I recall, you were involved in a very heated argument in a past thread about something that you, yourself, called a "personal" issue.  This sounds incredibly hypocritical, and I know who you really are, so I ask, as a fellow BG/GH member, to please consider being more mature and helping to resolve drama instead of contributing to/causing it.

 

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Hezzo Kaizar, I appreciate your input. And keeping it as civil as possible at this point is indeed in my sights. Whether or not this is considered cheating, seems to be up in the air depending on the clan, but we can all agree it is glitch exploitaion, which, in my humble opinion, is merely a varient of cheating. Just as timer glitch is condemned, and players who use it are called out, so shall this follow. Whether one calls this a cheat or not, it is still an unfair way to gain trophies, so condoning such behavior is hardly consistent. 
 

Could I have messaged in sod? Yes.. but no. We all know how impossibly hard it is to talk in sod msgs now. As for chat, yes if i wasn't  chat banned (but Eclipse knows I am, as her and shadow were laughing about the fact saying i deserved it) so strike two. Lasty, forums pms. Definitely a possibility. However, like I said, I would like this glitch to go away, and it seems Sod devs ignore things until a large public post is made abt it (e.g Ergin drama). That was a deal for how long till a large post with good video proof was made. 

What is most irritating, is that she believes she can call me a hacker publicly, yet I simply call her out for wayyy over using a glitch. However, its not like I am trying to get her banned like TNlR did to me (I have screen shots of them saying we needed banned if you evr feel inclined to discord me to see)
 

I do hope the glitch can get resolved soon 

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Following what dear Kai said...

Hi, @Fiery & @Eclipse.

 

While some of us commenting on this thread certainly do not know the entirety of the situation (since it is somewhat apparent this goes beyond this instance), the public nature on how this has come to our attention, I'd like to highlight Kai's advice, which I think is golden.

 

You should take this to Private Messages. 

 

And I wanted to reiterate as I'm both a Clan Leader and someone who's been somewhat involved in issues. I can guarantee that a mature conversation can take place without the constant worry of getting chatbanned as opposed to in-game conversations. Furthermore, both seem to have wishes of resolving this, so by all means, you should talk it out through PMs. Again, it's worked for me in the past, and I highly recommend it to you two.

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Ty for ur pov hiiddenn. Indeed I have not objected to pms, though I did note why I did post this publicly. However it is quite a mystery where EE’s sudden thirst for maturity came from, seeing how she was all about supporting shadow in the public post weeks ago. Where was her “this should be discussed privately” attitude then, I wonder. It is interesting to see the moods change though once the tables have turned, and one becomes the accused, instead of the accuser. Perhaps it can be a lesson well learned that its not so fun to be the one publicly accused, though at least mine were not blind accusations.

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I never had a SuDdEn ThIrSt

I never had a SuDdEn ThIrSt FoR MaTuRiTy lol the only way I took part in that last post, if anyone looks you can see, was telling people what happened in the pics that were given as proof. Though I'm still completely unsure as to why you can't stop obsessing over an old post? This post should have nothing to do with that. 

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Wheeeze okayyy

Mentioning the old post twice in a reply to a couple ppl is far from an obsession but okay pffft we wont comment further on that. I was just pointing out the interesting  fact, that in no way were you like 'this is immature, take it to dms' or 'this should be talked about privately not a public post' when it wasn't ur name getting dirt spread on. A simple and curious observation dont get offended hun. 

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I'd like people to know that I've sent fiery a PM, so nothing else should be said on this thread unless answering questions asked to us about it. Kai, and (hiiddenn? Not sure what to call you): you confirmed what I was thinking about this and I am grateful to have a direction many people agree on. Nice input

Thanks :)

also apology to anyone who thinks I was harsh and/or uncivil, I tend to be very passionate when defending. 

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Hezzo Kaizar, I appreciate your input. And keeping it as civil as possible at this point is indeed in my sights. Whether or not this is considered cheating, seems to be up in the air depending on the clan, but we can all agree it is glitch exploitaion, which, in my humble opinion, is merely a varient of cheating. Just as timer glitch is condemned, and players who use it are called out, so shall this follow. Whether one calls this a cheat or not, it is still an unfair way to gain trophies, so condoning such behavior is hardly consistent. 
 

Could I have messaged in sod? Yes.. but no. We all know how impossibly hard it is to talk in sod msgs now. As for chat, yes if i wasn't  chat banned (but Eclipse knows I am, as her and shadow were laughing about the fact saying i deserved it) so strike two. Lasty, forums pms. Definitely a possibility. However, like I said, I would like this glitch to go away, and it seems Sod devs ignore things until a large public post is made abt it (e.g Ergin drama). That was a deal for how long till a large post with good video proof was made. 

What is most irritating, is that she believes she can call me a hacker publicly, yet I simply call her out for wayyy over using a glitch. However, its not like I am trying to get her banned like TNlR did to me (I have screen shots of them saying we needed banned if you evr feel inclined to discord me to see)
 

I do hope the glitch can get resolved soon 

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Thanks for straightening this out, Kaizar! The forum isn't really the spot for drama, credits and mudracker Island in sod...probably.

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Ok first this is my honest opinion and thoughts on the matter, no one needs to get mad about them. 

 

Firstly, really Fiery did you need to make a post about this. I mean I know you're mad at DragonbornOfShadows for asking HPowers to reporting you but you really didn’t have to make a whole thread about this. Secondly, if someone comes and visits you and they want to start a fight or there trying to bully you then walk away. Tell them you're not going to fight them or just go to another island. It's not that hard. If they keep visiting you than turn off MMO. This is a game people it's supposed to be fun not full of drama and inappropriate things. Thirdly, yes, I know this glitch is annoying and cheating but I've raced against Eclipse on this track probably over fifty times and I never saw her use it. Yes, it wasn't fair for Eclipse to use the glitch but it could have also been a mistake that she used it. I mean maybe just consider that. I mean I have used it by accident before and I know some of my friends have too. Look you can either come together and be mature about this or someone else will have to be mature about it and sort the problem out for you.  There that is my point and that is all I have to say (for now). 

 

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Gdayy bro in regards to your question, if you read above, instead of posting after only reading like one paragraphs you’ll get your answer (whether its satisfactory enough for you or not, isn’t my problem). Can we just TAKE A MIN and point how feccin insensitive it is for you to say “If someone is bullying you, or trying to start a fight just walk away” Coming from the same clan who couldn’t “just walk away” from supposed bullying (which wasn’t even proved fyi), and made a whole azz public post about it as well. Plsss you’re not helping y’alls case. 

 

And yes, the first maybe two three times, it coulda been an accident, or experimenting. But surely EE isn’t so clumsy she accidentally does it every time she races one of us. Ofc she wouldn’t do that to you, ur her clan mate/friend. Plus she has stated on one occasion she only uses it against “hackers” (so she’s basically indirectly calling my clan mates hackers since she uses it on them regularly)

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First i literally joined this clan a week ago and have never ever chatted with Eclipse before i joined the clan. I actually hadn't talked to anyone in the clan before i joined. And im not trying to help a case im trying to defend my clan. And also i dont remember having a question in my first note.

Edit: Nvm i found the question

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I'm sure your efforts are appreciated, but if you cant even remember what you wrote, perhaps simply oberving would be your best option because You're doing quite the opposite of defending your clan. 

  

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Aaaaand you're still here keeping the drama up even though I tried to move to PMs. Nice work. 

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I feel the need to say this. When JUSTIFIED it's alright to stand up and fight, but THIS isn't justified. I will admit that I have not used the Falls glitch as it gives me TECNICAL DIFFICULTIES but I have used some other shortcuts. Those could be considered cheating, correct? Or are you just prejudged against eclipse echoes' glitch? (I'm sorry to all who got involved, but I've reached my limit on this)

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Ehh smh

Using shortcuts is not cheating. Using glitches is. And there is a difference between them. Unless you're shortcut involves rapid skipping of the map I wouldnt call it cheat. I have never raced you (diff timezones most likely) so I cannot say whether or not the shortcuts you use are fair. But if they are the standard ones, then no. 

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Then why worry about a glitch? If the sod team has it there, they probably have it there for a reason. While frustrating at times, you can always learn it and use it when Eclipse uses it. There's a solution to every problem.

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I must admit, I used to get angry when people would do backwards racing....I also get frustrated when people use the glitch in race.

I will not race a glitch racer if I notice they are using what admins provided.

I know one thing..... admins introduced it which is disappointing.

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Not angry at the glitch in the least bit now. So why worry?

Right. I'm more angry at them fixing the Old Hatchery Glitch than the racing Falls glitch (and thats saying something, since Fortune Falls is my favorite race track). So again, why worry about it when you can just learn it yourself? Makes it even and fixes the problem from the first post on here.

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Allright you two first things first, Eclipse,... you do not need to be so rude just to defend yourself, you were not very nice to fiery, at all and fiery, what you said is fine, but do please try to not swear like that it is unneeded, and un called for there are ways to express yourself in a kind, none swearing way, and as for both of you I have encountered a real hacking incident, that did not contain a glitch, a slow monsrous nightmare outflew a nighlight, Ruffrunner in fact and I don't mean by a little it was by far like I didn't finish that race that monstrous nightmare was thirty seconds ahead at least and at the racing lobby I couldn't see anything about his/her dragon and today I was racing and somehow someone on Dart started racing before the race started counting down resulting in me comeing in last along with other people. Now I agree with Jadee and the other two, oh and Eclipse one last thing, I'll try not to use too big words, but when it comes to your precious TNLR, you act as though everyone hates the clan and it may be more so along the lines of how the people act that are in the clan, such as saying your clan is the best, well i have it on excellent authority, that Carpe Diem Warriors is indeed the best cause they have indeed been winning the monthly clan leader board over and over in my experience, and just a morale for you, you tend to worship your clan,... it appears as though not so much a clan, but more under a cult. Do tell me what you think. Or not I could not have cared nor care less.

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Heyo nor, thank you for your input. And yes, I can admit when I am in the wrong. My language should have been kept clean, and was unneccessary to get my points across.

as for the hacking it sounds like you came across ergin who has been playing around recently it seem, though there are many other hackers about, so my clan and I will keep an eye out. Thank you for the heads up there

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Im not going to say very much, but I don't feel like I was any more rude than fiery. Sorry if I did, I'm fierce when defending. The hacking matter should not matter so much, as this post had nothing to do with it, but I've seen hackers as well, ones not disputed by others. (Not fiery and/or others people have different opinions on.)

A cult. Wow. I've seen a cult in real life, and trust me TNLR is not one. And neither is anything or anyone on the game I've ever seen. First off the largest deal with cults is religion. TNLR has no religion, we don't talk about religion, we don't require any beleifs to be in it.  (You'll probably bring up the light/dark thing but 1: that's doesn't have anything to do with religion it's just for fun and 2: you only know about it what you've seen us say to ourselves and what someone who didn't know much about it themselves has told you.) we don't worship the clan.  We also don't keep members from speaking to people outside of TNLR.  Also this is a game. I understand that it is possible for some people to have online cults but this ain't one. Same as I said to fiery though, if you want to continue a discussion or beef you got with us, PM me. 

I'm religious in reality, same religion as you I might add, and nothing from this game does or will effect my real loife, religion or otherwise. 
Also we don't say or think everyone hates us, though we do think some people hate us, but not everyone, just as everyone else does. And yes, no matter who you are and what you do some people will always hate you. 
we don't just wander around and say we're the best either lol. and battle events isn't the only way to be good, not that we're super high on the topclans either. 

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Eclipse got this spot on.  The haters are just gonna hate.

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Here we are still

I am only here to make a small comment as I have covered everything else in pms. 
 

I just wanted to say, that if one takes the time to fully read a comment and not parts of it, there wouldnt be as many misunderstandings, like you thinking he was calling your clan a cult, when he quite clearly said it was like or reminded him of one. 
 

He did make a good point about how your clan (maybe not you specifically all the time) goes around saying how 'this or that' clan hates you. Or saying how people somehow destroyed your clan. I personally do not know the full history of TNLR nor am I that interested, but the main verdict is that Shadow destroyed her own clan with her dramatic ways, and blames everyone around her. Disclaimer this is only what I have heard from other people from various clans, and I heard her side of the story as well. If you remember, when i was a newb, me and her were best friends, so yes, thats how I know so much about this, as I used to be the one she would complain to. 
 

and I do think we all agree that no matter what you do or say someone indeed will hate you no matter. 
 

Dont consider this as a drama reply, it is simply a back up for norston's statement. And we are all entitled to defend words we agree with without it being called 'drama' 

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Yeah, fiery, No problem and I can understand, but, Eclipse, I wasn't saying that it was a cult I meant it almost comes across and I am well aware that it isn't I wasn't serious about it being one. And about your 'lights and darks' I do know what that is Creativedragonloomer and I have talked abotu that and she explained the whole thing to me so you can't say I do not know a thing about that.

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Yes thank you, Fiery, that is

Yes thank you, Fiery, that is what I was saying about that, and Eclpise if you thought I hate your clan, you're wrong cause at battles it is just friendly competition if you want to say it was trash talk well I'll tell you what, It is but you shouldn't have a problem cause I keep all my "trash talk" clean along with everything else I say so for future information I don't hate your clan. I don't hate the people in the clan. Again fiery, thanks.