The Goods and Bads of Rescue Riders

Not exactly related to your rant however, I've never watched this show but I don't like how all the new dragons in game have the toy-ish rubbery look to them like you said that this show has. The Abomibumble or whatever its called has this weird shine to it and the neck size to head size proportion of that dragon makes me anxious. It looks out of place too compared to every other dragon in the game. I don't know if this was just a stylistic choice or if they got a new modeler or something.

I would argue that in the show they explain that the reason they can talk dragonese is not because of their bond but them being adopted and raised by dragon. Which is why they can talk to the wild dragons they arent bonded with.

For other point i cant say much as i havent watch the whole show other than that it's probably not for you. Like you mention many time that it is a pre-school show. So i saw their existance as harmless fun show for kids i dont have to watch.

"Can't the animator add more details?" (They cant they are animator so they cant do anything but animat, that would be a work of modeler, lighting, texture etc but that's beside a point) As someone who work for the studio who work on this i think it might have to do with the combination of budget for the show and the artistry choice as i saw what they can do on other movies and shows. There are LOT of limitation for pre-school show for how a show can look. Working on a pre-school show and i got a lot of "this is too complex for this" " this is above our budget" so it can be quite challenging.

The reason the main dragons character are like that and again this is only a speculation but it might be because they want them to look like their older show counterpart but cant/choose to have something of their own instead. They want to have their own toothless for the kid show, boom swiftwing. They want to have their gronckle, boom rockburple. Which actuallu might be good? Would you rather see a kid down version of a nightfury or a kid down version of a night fury that is something else that wouldnt tain a night fury image? Cant they just made something new and unique instead? I think they can but that would be against the reason why this show exist in the first place; being the kid version of the franchise. Otherwise they could make any other dragon show that is not of httyd verse

I dont know about you guys but i dont think NF own the word Fury, i think other dragon can have a little fury in the name as a threat and doesnt need to be relate to the fury family. Fire fury doesnt look like they relate.

I do have a few good i can think of though
I like some of the design of the dragon, not the main ones but the one they met in the wild, many of them can legitimately be in the main framchise and wouldnt feel out of place.
Also i like that the show give us les.bian representation faster than the main series
I do find some of the lore fascinating enough that i would go and fish some of the screen to learn more about it
Im surprise at the stuff and effort this show can have for a pre-school show. Certainly a lot less limitation than mine. And they do have a good music.
I like that the dragon can talk because if they could in the main franchise i would not like that one bit but since this is a spin off show with more loose logic then yeah might as well tackling that aspect that wouldnt be impossible in the main show

Not tryna be rude but you just sound uneducated. I have watched most of the show and while I despise some design choices they've made I think overall the show is not too bad.

It's normal that you don't like it because you're not in the audience it is targeted to, unless you're actually a pre-schooler, in that case my compliments for being the smartest pre-schooler I know. 

Now, I say you're uneducated because you got the reason Dak and Layla talk to dragons wrong, it's not because they have a bond but because they were raised by them and know their language. That explains how they can also talk to wild dragons they've never met before. 

The designs are quite simple because: 1) again, it's a pre-schoolers show 2) they most likely had a low budged seeing how the show was barely advertised.

I see you also ranted about the dragon species, I personally think it's much better they did completely new species instead of recycling the dragons from HTTYD, otherwise people like you who have never watched the show would think it's a ripoff of HTTYD, when it's not even canon. 

So, to close off my rant, please don't judge a book by its cover ;)

Personally, I'm a fan of the show. For a kids show, it's pretty cute and fun to watch in your spare time. I just hope people would stop comparing it to HTTYD franchise and judge it as it's own thing. Sure, it got "Dreamworks Dragons" in the title, but it isn't based on How To Train Your Dragon franchise we know, it's based on the books. Otherwise, it would've had kid-versions of every single HTTYD dragon from the other franchise (would you want that?), but it doesn't. Which is something I really like about RR, they made many, interesting new dragon species and never put a single dragon species from HTTYD.

Speaking of which...

Burple isn't a Gronckle, but a Rockspitter. Obviously both species are related, but still different. In appearance, Rockspitters don't have ears like the Gronckle. In abilities, Rockspitters have four stomachs, one for food and the others for storing pretty much anything (I like that ability, pretty useful for trips XD). Gronckles only got two (my guess), one for food and the other for melting rocks to make their lava blasts. Rockspitters, as their name suggests, swallow rocks and spit them back out without melting them in lava like the Gronckle does.

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I actually find it interesting that Winger and Summer look similar. It means Swiftwings and Fastfins shared an ancestor at some point. Though the creators probably made them look similar because their riders, Dak and Leyla are twins. At least that's my theory XD

I also feel like Winger's appearance is sort of based on what Dreamworks were originally going to make Toothless: wolf-like instead of cat-like.

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"I'm a Fire Fury! We're a little hot-headed." - Aggro.

Fury isn't a word that Toothless and Lighty's species own or something, so it's not a big deal in my opinion. The viking who discovered Fire Furies and named them that probably never heard of Night Furies, and the name just stuck. Also, I would like to point out that the Snow Wraith is basically called a Snow Fury because Fury and Wraith have the same meaning, and the Snow Wraith clearly isn't related to Night and Light Furies, but no one is making a big deal about that. Fun fact: The Sand Wraith was originally called a Sand Fury, but Rise of Berk changed it XD

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Now I'll say my top favorite and least favorite thing about Rescue Riders.

~Favorite~

New Dragon Species. Although some dragon designs are questionable, I really love how creative some dragon designs are. My favorite are Flyhoppers, Fire Furies and Divewings.

I dare you to take one look at Flyhoppers and tell me you don't want one. They're so cute!! I l really like their shovel-like tail and how they use it to carry stuff.

~Least Favorite~

*Sighs* I love this show, but one tiny little thing bugs me...

Reptiles. Do. NOT. Have. EYELASHES.

If I stare at their eyelashes for too long, it might drive me mad XD It's just so unnatural... I get it they want to help kids distinguish females from males, but eyelashes? Seriously???

Honestly, this sounds like a rant from someone who hasn't actually watched the show. If it's not for you, then it's not for you, and that's fine, but I do think it's better to actually watch something before you say it's good or bad. It's fair to judge the designs without watching it, but you really should see the show if you're going to comment on the plotline or how the dragons work.

So first for the points that aren't true:

-Dak and Leyla speak dragon because they were orphans who were adopted and raised by dragons. It has nothing to do with bonding; they just learned a different language.

-The difference between the Rockspitter and the Gronckle is mostly the firepower. Rockspitters don't eat rocks and spew lava like Gronckles do. Rockspitters have 4 stomachs and only one is used for food. The other 3 hold items, usually rocks, that they can spit out later as a form of firepower. I agree, it still looks way too much like Gronckle, but it's still less of a Gronckle copy than the Hotburple. (So the franchise has done this before.)

And now points for that...kind of confused me as complaints?

I don't understand how a "stereotypical water dragon" - which we already have quite a few of in the series - is a problem? One of my friends had actually complained that no main Rider had a Tidal Class dragon before RR. If you don't like water dragons, that's fine, but there are people who think water dragons are neat.

As for the Fire Fury, we have other dragons with similar name endings in the franchise already that aren't similar dragons. The Sand Wraith and Snow Wraith are very different dragons, but they both have stealth that helps them disappear "like ghosts." The Whispering Death, Sweet Death, and Red Death are very different dragons, but their names all describe the type of death they give you. For Fire Furies, they're hotheaded, so "Fury" is even more fitting for them as it is for the Night Fury. I guess it is a little weird since the Night Fury is the face of the franchise? Maybe not the smartest branding. But I don't see how it's a huge problem or anything.

I also personally don't see any Razorwhip in the Relentless Razorwing's design, but that's just me. It looks more like a four-legged Nadder with a small chin to me. (I actually really like it, but I do have a soft spot for Nadder-ish dragons.) XD The name also has nothing to do with the Razorwhip, either; the "Razorwing" was actually a dragon from the HTTYD book series.

Now there is one dragon in RR that rubs me the wrong way: the Swiftwing. It's basically just a downgraded Night Fury in every way (and much more of a Night Fury ripoff than the Sand Wraith or Woolly Howl ever were). The Swiftwing is a super-fast dragon that shoots plasma blasts. It's a daytime dragon with a shot limit of 3, not a nighttime dragon with a shot limit of 6, but still, there's really nothing unique about it like there was for the Rockspitter or Razorwing. It doesn't make me angry, but it does make me roll my eyes.

Now my response to the rest...

Totally with you on the designs. Some backgrounds do impress me, but I'm not into the character designs at all. Though it's a common for preschooler shows to design their characters that way, so I'm not offended by it, but it's not my cup of tea.

I think you actually like the songs more than I do. I don't like them that much. I don't hate them, but they don't do it for me. They're too kiddie-bop for me. But again, given the target age group, that's probably the point.

Now my opinion as someone who's actually seen the show: it's incredibly mediocre. You watch it and it's not that good but it's not that bad, either. There are some stuff that I found really sweet, but for the most part it doesn't do anything for me. It's incredibly bland and inoffensive and adds nothing. If you want to compare it to other HTTYD shows, it's bad parts are never as bad as RTTE at its worst, but it's good parts are also never as good as RTTE at its best.

I also don't like the idea that there's a human-like dragon language, instead of a mixture of sounds and body language. I preferred the idea that the dragons communicated like hyper-intelligent animals rather than four-legged humans. That's not a flaw, though, just my personal preference. And I'd probably be more interested in that premise if they actually did something with Dak and Leyla's unique backstory (which they probably never well because, again, preschool audience).

But calling it a "stain" seems a bit harsh. A lot of stuff people complain about - including stuff I don't like - are common features of preschooler-aimed shows. I guess people are mostly upset that there's a preschooler thing attached to HTTYD? It doesn't affect the rest of the HTTYD franchise, so in theory that's not problem, but I guess I can see why some folks think HTTYD stuff should be geared to the general HTTYD audience. I personally don't think it's fair to limit a franchise like that, but I can see why some think a franchise work should serve all the other works within that franchise. And RR doesn't do that.

Since we agree Flyhoppers are the best thing in RR, here are some gifs of these cuties XD

The one laughing in the far back though XD

Pass the apple!

Toothless could take dancing lessons from these guys.

Aww, I now understand why people like Flyhoppers so much.  (Although, why do they have a bunch of detailed scales on one of them but none of the others?)  A while ago I watched the first couple episodes (Before deciding it was too childish for my liking [And went back to watching Phinieas and Ferb and Scooby Doo ] XD  :3), so I can't really say anything about the series overall; but from what I saw, I can say that the plot is just not very interesting, the vikings look terrifying, but many of the dragons have cool and unique designs.  I don't think this series really ties into Httyd, although it clearly had some inspiration from it, and I don't think any Httyd fans should be bothered by it.  To each their own, but I just don't see it as being revelent to the Httyd franchise...

I get that seeing the dragons talk can take some getting used to, but I think they explained the reason why pretty well. The only reason Dak and Leyla can understand them is because they were raised by dragons since they were young. It's not a "bond" thing at all. It's more a case of learning the dragons' "language" over time. They make sure to remind the audience of that throughout the show, as well. And personally, I don't actually think it's all that out-of-place for HTTYD. I don't mean in the sense that they literally hear human words when the dragons talk, but it may just be a case of learning to understand how the dragons communicate. Understanding their "language". I'd even argue that Valka may be a canon example of this, but just to a lesser extent. She has a very strong understanding of dragons, after having lived with them for years. So I don't think that humans learning to understand dragons better is all that much of a stretch. Especially since Rescue Riders is primarily aimed at children. This is a nice, plausible way to have "talking" dragons for the kid appeal, but not just wave it off as magic or something.

Now, the Rockspitter and the Fire Fury. I don't think the Fire Fury is supposed to have anything to do with the Night Fury. In the same way a Death Song, Deathgripper, Sweet Death, Red Death and Whispering Death are not related to each other. Or in Rescue Riders, a Swiftwing and Razorwing are not related. It's just a name, that's all. The word "fury" doesn't automatically mean "cousin of the Night Fury".

I thought Burple was a Gronckle at first. And yes, there are many similarities. But they're not 100% the same. The main difference is that Gronckles spit lava and Rockspitters don't. Rockspitters eat rocks (and other items), and store them in their stomachs for later. They spit them back up again whole. Gronckles will melt the rocks though, and spit it back up as lava. Now personally, I'd have preferred if they'd just made Burple a Gronckle. But simply having two very similar species isn't really grounds for a complaint. After all, we already have the Death Song and the Slithersong, which are (almost) identical in appearance. Also, the Night Terror and the Fire Terror. And now, The Night Fury and the Light Fury. 

I personally liked Rescue Riders. It got kinda childish at times, but it's a show aimed at younger kids. So that was to be expected. But of course, the show isn't going to be enjoyable to everyone because of that.

...Also. Flyhoppers!