Where did the other teens in HTTYD go?

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So I was watching Gift of the Night Fury, and I suddenly noticed something strange. The gang (Hiccup, Astrid, the ‘nuts, Snotlout, Fishlegs) is comprised of ALL the teens in the entire village of Berk. Six teenagers. That’s it? There have to have been more babies born around that time than just six, right?

Well, since it IS a movie, you could just say they animated enough teenagers to give the story a decent plot and/or its just an oversight by the director. BUT since I’ve gotten in the habit of seeing fictional works as real, I formed a theory on where all the other teens went.

I think they were eaten by dragons.

I mean, think about it for a second. There are so few children and teens on Berk. Dragons (and predators in general) go after the weak and helpless because they’re so much easier to hunt. So it follows that during the near nightly attacks on the village, children would be lost. Eventually, by the time they become adults, there are very few people left of that age group. 

That would also explain why such an unlikely group of teens would band together, because I’m pretty sure that Astrid wouldn’t be on a team with Snotlout of her own volition, or Snotlout with Fishlegs (or Snotlout with anybody, really). They had to stick together or be killed. And that makes their ostracism of Hiccup all the more terrible, because they’re essentially leaving him to die. Honestly, the fact that he managed to survive that long mostly on his own is a miracle.

It would also explain why Hiccup’s training of a dragon was so much of a betrayal. He willingly befriended a creature that was partly responsible for killing nearly everyone his age. He chose the company of what the Vikings saw as murderers (and yes, they kind of were at that point) over their victims—the Vikings themselves. No WONDER Stoick lost it so badly.

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Actually, the thing is that very few Viking children survived in normal cultures as well.

In fact, Hiccup is a very lucky kid for more reasons then not getting carried off, because (I studied this in History) Viking parents would often disown their children if they were weakly or sick. Anyone remember that scen in "Thor" where Odin finds little baby Loki? Loki was abandoned by his parents because he was to small and weak.

Viking fathers were given the choice on whether or not a newly-born child got to live or not. Their lives were hard and ou had to be strong to survive, ad with little food available you had to be able to help provide if you wanted to eat; hence a need for strong children.

Also, besides getting carried off, there would also have been enemy tribes from other islands who may have taken the other Berkian teens captive. Sadly, slavery was pretty common in Viking culture, so that is also a possibility.

Berks teens could also have parished due to illness, which was common as well, few children lived to adulthood in those days, a good portion of children died in the first few days of their lives.

 

Berks kids could have Parished of :

Hunger (food was hard to get without pillaging)

Parent's deciding they were to weak :thus being left for dead or being streight up "disposed of"

Captured: made into slaves by other tribes

Sickness: a common threat for folks of all ages

 

and then there is the fact you already ponnted out :Dragons

 

Sadly, dragons might have been the least likely of these causes, considering very few teenagers are shown in the show at all, there is not just a lack of them on Berk.

 

 

Just some added info.

 

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Oof, good point.

Yeah, actually, i agree with the lucky to not be disowned statement. in the books, Hiccup should have been abandoned for dead BECAUSE he was a runt, but his dad and mom broke the law and kept him. But yes, those are all good points, considering how warlike and unsanitary the Vikings are/were. I kinda like my theory though, even though it’s sad and not really accurate. Oh well. *shrugs* this is what imaginations are for!

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""But yes, those are all good points, considering how warlike and unsanitary the Vikings are/were.""

 

I don't mean to be pushy and correcting, but Vikings actually were one of the few peoples with an actual health standard. They actually bathed on occasion wheras many other civilizations did not. There is some research I read awhile ago that states that vikings were actually more consciencious of their health than many people have been led to believe.

 

((Not trying to be a know-it-all but I hate that so many people are kept in the dark as to the true facts of life of the people who lived in the medieval times/dark ages))

 

 

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Okay, then, scratch the unsanitary part, but you know what I mean ;)

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Oh wow, I never saw that! However, they're technically not the only teenagers that are in Berk.

 

For starters, Gustav is basically old enough to be considered a teenager, since his final age is 16 years old (according to Fandom Wikia).

 

And altough they're only canon in School of Dragons, Wartihog, Clueless and Speedifist are also members of the Hooligan Tribe, hence, they also live in Berk.

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Another good point ><

I don’t really count gustav because he’s about five years younger than the rest of the dragonriders. I consider him young enough to be in a separate age group, because when the dragonriders were 15/16, he was around 10/11, and when they were in their late teens and early 20s, he was 16. 

And fun fact, wartihog, clueless, and speedifist were all characters in the books. They’re the same age as Hiccup.

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This is very well thought out. I've wondered myself why the main 6 are the only ones we ever see but I just chalked it up to animation and such. I do think there's more there that we just don't see but it is a very strong possibility that some of the children/teenagers were killed by dragons. Stoick said in the first movie, "They've killed hundreds of us." This could very well include children/teens.

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egg from store, no space for her she's still on pedestal.

Name ideas for whispering death welcome! The little one will be hatching after Spot gets a spot.

 

Don't worry, Spike, I still remember when you were a tiny hatchling with HUGE eyes. You have huge eyes too, Pinky. Crash, Burn... You share a body. You were adorable, Olaffics, but... Yellow in snow -- that's you!

 

Fave class(s): Strike, Sharp.

 

Some of fave books:

Httyd series (Cressida Cowell)

Narnia series (C.S. Lewis)

Redwall series (Brian Jacques)

Ruby Redfort series (Lauren Child)

Mysterious Benedict Society series (lol I forgot the author's name)

Minecraft: the Island (Max Brooks)

My Side of the Mountain and sequels (Jean Craighead George)

Dragons in our Midst series (Brian Davis)

Oracles of Fire series (Brian Davis)

Children of the Bard series (Brian Davis)

The Phantom Tollbooth (Norton Juster)

 

Fave movies:

Httyd movies (and tv shows)

Narnia movies

The Princess Bride

Charlie and the chocolate factory (newer)

The Phantom Tollbooth

Lilo and Stitch (and sequels)

 

Quotes!!!

"I love you Jan! And El! And Earl!" - Tracie Kitten, 2019

 "There were dragons when I was a boy." - Hiccup H. H. III (books 1 and 12 and movie 3)

"People can change! You've got to believe in people, and then maybe they can change." - Hiccup H. H. III (book 11)

"Rrrroow." Toothless the night fury

 "Read to me!" - my little sister (we're reading the httyd books)

 "Anything somebody says is a quote!" - me

 "Thank you. You have both been the truest and the best friends that a person could  ever have, and I would never have gotten here without you." - Hiccup H. H. III (book 12)

 "Excuse me, barmaid, I think You brought me the wrong offspring. I ordered an extra large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side. This here, this is a talking fishbone!" "You just gestured to all of me." - HHHIII ( movie 1)

 

You went to the end!! Now for something special.

I am a follower of Jesus! Special blessing for special day!! Seriously, God bless Jay Baruchel, DanTDM (and other YT People like ballistic squid), the president of the USA, and all my friends and family.

(Do you think that was anticlimactic?)

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Huh. I've never thought about that before either.

 

Which is weird because I usually pay close attention to detail, pfff.

 

This is a really good analysis, and I do agree that it justifies Stoick's anger even more.

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Might make one in the future.

 

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Huh. I've never thought about that before either.

 

Which is weird because I usually pay close attention to detail, pfff.

 

This is a really good analysis, and I do agree that it justifies Stoick's anger even more.

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Great, also double post. xP

Great, also double post. xP