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Been a while since there's been a good complain-about-art thread.

 

Everyone has these  little (or big) things that pop up once in a while that makes everything stupidly difficult or just plain annoying. Whether it's software getting you down, or that one eraser leaving a bigger smudge than the one you were trying to get rid of.  Or maybe there are some art tropes you have grown tired of and would rather see banished to the nether?

 

Dump your art peeves here! I'll put some in the next post to start things off.

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  • When PS doesn't react to the keyboard for no reason at all so it takes 5 swift rams to swap tools or resize a brush.
  • When the pen pressure suddenly drops for a wee bit at the beginning of a perfect stroke so I have to redo it anyway.
  • Those dang-diddly oversaturated orange/pink/brown overlays people like to do nowadays.
  • When I draw the arms way too long so I end up with some kind of grotesque man-gibbon. (99% of the time)
  • When I see that someone else drew the arms way too long. (also 99% of the time)
  • That one stray pixel that's not on any layer, but yet it is there, on the canvas, looming.
  • Anime sidemouth in non-animated artwork.
  • When the finished product looks way different on different screens, making colour-correction impossible.
  • When I flip the canvas horizontally and realise I drew Quasimodo again.
  • When people draw a 3/4 facing character with both feet pointing sideways to the same side.
  • DRAWING FEET.
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Oh yes. I've got a few.

 

-Sorting layers. I always make ten and forget to use 8 of them.

-Realizing you did all of your detail work on one layer and so you can't take one little element away without destroying everything you just did.

-Over-saturated colors

-When you can't find the exact spot to place the eyes in. You always circle around the drain but can never QUITE get it right into that sweet spot. You know it's there. But you can't find it for the life of you. You only ever get close.

-Human hair

-Humans at angles

-Humans

-Fish (Yes I'm somehow bad at fish)

-When you're trying to make a normal animal but you can't keep their eyeball expressions from looking intelligent. I think I'm getting better about this though.

-Ridiculous proportions that are only focusing on the cute part of the animal (which I get can be a style but sometimes super big fluffy fox tails annoy me, for example)

-When you realize you've drawn the thing in a completely wrong angle than what you were going for

 

I'll probably post more of these when I can think of them.

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I really feel the animal eyes one. It's so difficult not to anthropomorphise something I always end up drawing creepy human-like eyes on animals iksadjfyh

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Aaaaaa. Right!? It's just like 'Okay. this should basically more or less be a circle. Why can't I draw a circle. Why. It's a circle. This animal shouldn't even have eyelids hhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa'

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Yesss hahahaha. For me it's mostly the lintelligence (or sapience, more like). It's difficult to give animals a feral look imo! I always end up anthropomorphising them-- but I haven't yet figured out what causes me to do it and how I can stop doing it, so far!

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Oh my gosh yes! That's exactly it! Like... why is it so hard to make something look feral? I think a big part of it is not wanting it to look like it has derpy fish eyes. AND if you ever look at animal's eyes it's actually a REALLY big balance of where their pupil ends up being. Because if you've ever looked at a cat's eye from the side you can see that they've got that round part and the pupil is behind it. It's weird. Eyes are weird.

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Ughhh yes! Too many issues..

  1. Humans... I can do antho animals but not humans..
  2. making the eyes the same! When it’s front view I get angry at my hand for not doing similar eye shapes!
  3. I can do the leg shapes but the paws? I just leave them as circles
  4. And using too many layers and not using them or doing too much on one layer

This is perfect! I can rant about art without people being like “Why you ranting? Stop being angry!” Or “Why is my chocolate gone?”

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Peeves?

 

When you make a horrible mistake and don't notice it at first and it gets saved so you can't just go back. You have to live with it now, and try to somehow correct it with blending/overpainting/liquify but you just wish you could go back.

 

Making a half decent sketch, but when you try to refine it, EVERYTHING is off.

 

Doing things on the completely wrong layer.

 

Procreate's layer limit.

 

Drawing until late at night and being really pleased with your work, going to bed, waking up and realising it looks horrible and re-doing everything.

 

Noticing half way through that you forgot to include something important. 

 

Standing up from your desk, noticing your legs have fallen asleep and almost falling on your face.

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Oh gosh. I very much relate to #3 yes.

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kjhasdkasd forgetting to include important things? anhd then having to add them later on? that is very relatable LOL

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Got some more, because heck yea.

 

  • When friends send their PSDs for fixing but there's tens if not hundreds of layers with very little or even nothing on them to slog through while 1-5 layers would have been enough.
  • "Photoshop has stopped working."
  • Multiply/screen shading. Bonus bleh if it's in black and white with low opacity.
  • People who are able to do lineart without figuring out the composition and colours first-- they are demons.
  • When the pen stops working and I gotta figure out whether it's the batttery or just me being a dum dum.
  • People who fish for compliments after tracing/heavily eyeballing existing art. I never know what to say?
  • Pure black lineart, especially on works that have no black for the rest.
  • EDITING ANY SHADE OF GREEN.
  • When I draw hair and it ends up looking all chunky (which is... often lol)

 

Bonus from my previous post because every digital artist can relate at one point:

 

"The Pixel"

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HAhahahahaahha! Yes! The ONE stray pixel that you have no idea where it came from X'DDDD

 

And yes about the pen one. I hate that so much. What's worse is that my tablet is so old that it's also a matter of 'okay did this finally break helpme'

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This time it was even a cluster of pixels-- however they simply just... disappeared the next day. sdjkfksd

 

What tablet do you have? They can last super long depending on the brand. In my case the pen is broken because I dropped it right on the first day when I received it. It's held together with tape now, oops.

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"FOILED BY A CATTLE SSSTAMPEDE!?! A CATTLE SSSTAMPEDE!?!"

Oh gosh. Your art program is trying to gaslight you.

 

Aaa, I'm pretty sure it's a Wacom. Don't ask for any sort of specific model type because I probably wouldn't be able to figure it out and I most certainly don't remember. It's technically my sister's but she isn't territorial over it so yes ~<3

 

Oof that's just the worst luck DX But hey. At least it's got um.. character now :D

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If it's super old it might as well be a Graphire-- I still have one lying around somewhere. Thing broke like a billion times before I finally replaced it. An upside to Wacom is that at least they don't use batteries (which is a downside if you like weighted pens) so at least you've been spared that LOL

 

I'm lucky because my tablet came with two pens. But I keep using the same broken pen because I don't want to break the other one. Funny how that works.

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Cackle yes yes. The pen has noticeably not been much of a bother. The plus side to the old tablet is that it hasn't been used too much so it's still in relatively good condition. It does have some quirks sometimes though.

 

Haha! Yes yes. Just. You always have the far better condition one on hand but you never use it because you don't want to wear it out too. I mean.... if something works then it works. Might as well use it until it spontaneously combusts ^U^

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Got some good new ones lads:

 

  • Colour proofing, especially blacks. Will the printed product look like the proof? No. It never will. Don't even try.
  • Fused/double mouths. Completely fine for animated work, but it looks lazy in an illustration.
  • Wristhands, or handwrists. Depends on how you look at 'em.
  • When you draw a thing and you think it's original but then you find something nearly exactly like it that's also older than your own work so into the TRASH IT GOES. Wasted time.
  • When people refer to only a super specific type of anthropomorphism as 'anthro'. Furries aren't the only anthropomorphs dsfjhgsdfj. Those lions from that stupid new lion king film are anthro.
  • When people look at how I work. Go do your own thing, leave me alooone.
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa #4 hits way too close to home. That always s.ucks! Especially if you REALLY liked the design of the character you drew! Waaaaah.

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For me it's not character design, but just entire concepts, which is even worse haha. I don't really care if character designs look like other character designs-- there's so much out there, and everything seems to have been done by now!

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"FOILED BY A CATTLE SSSTAMPEDE!?! A CATTLE SSSTAMPEDE!?!"

Awwh, I mean. I think it goes the same way with character concepts. Chances are it's already been done before. I don't think you should let that bother you unless it's an unholy amount of similarity x)

 

I actually had an occurrence where I made a character and my friend showed me a webcomic that contained another character that had not only a very similar type of personality to my character but also his situation was very similar to my character's too (they were both cases of 'used to be a normal person but is now horridly transformed into a monster and hates it and desparately just wants to be human again' type of thing). And I'd never seen that comic before. Heck they even had similar color palettes. I think it's safe to say that even if you find a similar character to what you've come up with somewhere else then it shouldn't deter you from developing that character. Because I don't think anyone can come up with something that has 100% without a doubt never done before.

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Most things have been done by now, being original is becoming more and more difficult. It's why I don't mind similarities between unrelated characters anymore. It's also why I laugh at the "DON'T YOU compare my character to others that are almost carbon copies!!" crowd. The illusion of originality, and the fragility of some people.... haha.

 

Ahhh yes, the monster/human thing. It's quite common both for original- and fan characters, so you're indeed bound to find ones similar to yours, especially if you're into colour theory and consciously choose a colour scheme for the vibe it gives. But you're right! Just keep working on that character. The more development, the more unique stuff you can work in there, and the more your character will stand out compared to others that are based on a similar concept. As long as people don't rip each other off, I don't see why they can't have similar characters. It's so inevitable nowadays.

 

Reminds me of the good old Neopets days. I had a neopet with a character design, and one part of it was that he had ram-like horns. At one point some snooty kid sent me a message that I should CEASE drawing 'curled horns' on my character, because she is the one who made up 'curled horns'! The horns on her character looked totally different, including the colour, too, not based on reality. She even threatened to 'report me' and publically shame me for design theft on the forums.

I'll never forget that. It was so asinine that even as a 12 year old I nearly cried laughing and told her to 'go on ahead and make a thread'. |D

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Cackle exactly. With all the social media things and image-sharing artsy websites nowadays, it looks as if you can never have an original idea anymore. I think if we didn't have these things we wouldn't be as aware of the fact that everyone will think of the same concept at least once. But since we do I think it helps put at peace the fact that nothing's ever 100% truly original. I'm sure this happened probably just as often before the internet too but it just wasn't as easy to find out about it.

 

Oh yes. I'm very aware that it's a very commonly used trope. I kind of overuse it myself... cackle. Don't worry. I have no worries about Tsk. He's certainly his own little thing.. for sure. Grumpy gharial demon man, heehee.

 

Awwwh X'DDD that's priceless. Yes yes. I love that. Being called a plagiarist over tiny things like that is always amusing x')

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when people call art that lacks a specfic style of contouring 'lineless art'.

 

i sware to me hamster if someone calls my work lineless again i'll go full kaiju on their house and i will leave no survivors

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When the the touch screen decided to stop working for no reason right in the middle of a perfectly good line.

When I can't get the colour right. Especially skin colour.

When people look over my shoulder *glares at mother*. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

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Jinx, by Frugal. Tyyyyy!

 

 

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Icee Glacier
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Joined: 05/16/2014
"Now I'll NEVER rule the world! I HATE thisss job!!"

-When you're really fired up on a project and then the next day you want nothing to do with it at all and it phsyically pains you to try to work on it. So you eventually end up scrapping it because you're too impatient to wait until you get your mojo back.

 

-Failing to do cool lineart effects. Trying to do cool line art effects.

 

-Construction. A very necessary necessity but it irks my soul and I was a bad girl and stopped doing it for too long and now I'm suffering for that

 

-When you draw something and the construction looks pretty awesome but then you get the lineart in and it feels like it looks worse than the skeleton sketchy mess you just eliminated and you wonder why your brain is like this

 

-Snakes. My THOR are snakes hard to draw for just being living rope creatures!!!

 

-Losing your inspiration but still having ideas of things you want to draw but drawing makes you want to d.ie at that moment but it's still conflicting anyways. That always s.ucks.