Seeking Battle Advice/Strategy

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So I'd say I'm a somewhat experienced battler in the couple months I've been playing this game. I got to a point a few weeks ago where I could get gold most of the time on my sand wraith, and with the addition of my monstrous nightmare I've been able to pretty much always get gold (generally 4th to 8th place), and have been trying to save up gems and get eggs since my schedule often allows me to take a few minutes away from studying to play a battle. 

 

However, in the past week or so I've been having difficulties and mostly getting silver. It seems most of the ships coming in are 9000 points instead of 12000, which means the battles are way shorter. My analysis seems like it diminishes the effects of having a fast-flying dragon to refill (if you're playing the regular method instead of sitting at the bases and going long-distance) though I haven't yet tried one of my slower dragons with higher damage. It also seems like this will diminish the effect on points of losing health via crashing into the ship to restart rather than fully flying back and forth. I need to start flying other dragons to test this better, so right now these are just guesses. 

 

Would anyone else like to strategize about what dragons work best now? I'm guessing I need a dragon with a high shot limit and lots of damage, and speed doesn't really matter. Unfortunately I don't have enough gems to get a new dragon that would fight better, my best candidates for battle would be my nightmare, groncicle, sand wraith, nadder, whispering deaths, and maybe my fireworm queen once she ages up. Which of these do you think will work best with the new style, or which dragons in general are the best battlers for 9000 point ships. Also, which of the dragons from expansions are the best battle dragons, and are any of them better than a nightmare? 

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There are a few points you

There are a few points you shoud take note of:

1. Take the dragon with the top shot limit.

2. High damage dragons is no good. Their shot recharging speed is very low (time between two shots), and it annihilates all the other profits. For example, a groncicle is better than a razorwhip, whish is better than a nadder.

3. Running into the boat tactic doesn't always work well. If you have a 14-shot dragon like a scauldren, it might be benefcial, but I'm not sure. With my 10-shot dragons it enerally brings the score down, especially if you regenerate at the far camp. So I keep flying here-and-there and usually I get gold (Groncicle).

Which ship are you to expect? It's full random. Nobody can predict. Outcast ships are harder to get gold from, right. I don't know why.

The best battle dragons I know is a scauldren, a screaming death and a prickleboggler (or smth like that). I have noe of them, though. 

Seems like that's all I can tell you. Good luck. Hope I will be able to keep winning golds after telling everybody theese tips :)

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I usually manage to get gold with my typhoomerang, eruptodon or scauldron. 

Best thing you can do is find the balance between many shots, RoF, quick recharge rate and high dps. I wanted to calculate which dragons have the highest total dps output but I keep slacking. I'll get to it...ONE DAY.

 

I just fire from the base nowadays, as there's this infinite shot bug going on that people will abuse. All you need for that is a dragon that you can aim properly with without having to rely on auto-targeting.

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1- choose your battle dragon wisely.  I always use a sand wraith. they have fast speed, great turn/pitch, great shot #,  and moderate damage. i hear that scaldrens are best to use but ive never used one before. so i dont know from experience. obviously toothless is a great choice too.

 

2-  ALWAYS dive from the camp to the ship to get a much needed boost, saving time.

 

3- DON"T fly back to the camp...because......TIME=POINTS!......this actually depends on the dragon you use.  adragon like a nadder you will want to fly back with. but with dragons like the sand wraith, shockjaw, and up, fly into the ship to teliport to camp. yes, this takes points away but, make note that the stats of your chosen dragon changes whether you fly to camp or not.  Because my sand wraith has moderate/high stats, i can teliport to camp and then fly down to the ship and start firing sooner then i would've had i flew to camp. this saves time and TIME=POINTS. i get back the points i lost plus more in less time.

 

4- firing from behind the ship or an object that blocks arrows sometimes helps. i have done htis myself.  if your energy is low you'll want to try this so you dont run out and have to go to camp.

 

5- yes, changing dragons in battle to use all shots is an option. ive never tried it before because it takes a while for me but if you can do it swiftly, by all means try it!

 

I've always gotten gold useing these methods. a rare silver bacause of a scaldren user but that is still great.  Even on a shockjaw ive gotten gold like this.  But save time as much as possible bacause that =points! Find what works for you and run with it! GL:D

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I wouldn't be so sure about

I wouldn't be so sure about Toothless. He has 6 shot limit and extreemely slow fire recharge (time between two shots) - that's up to 3 econds. But I don't have Toothless myself, so I can not be sure about its actual score.

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yeah idontknow from

yeah idontknow from experience either. just from looking at toothless in action in battle.  i gathered it was an ok amount of shots but at least i know the count now....:)  better dragon knowledge for all us!

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Trust me, this will work

This one may sound weird but believe me, you'll get gold more often if you do this:

Don't use a dragon with a high damage. Why? Because you only get points from how many times you've shot.
If the ship loses lots of health quickly and you win, you won't have time to shoot.
This is why dragons like a Scauldron and Prickleboggle win, they have a high shot limit, but a low damage.

So, my advice is: Pick a dragon with a high shot limit and less damage.

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Eruptodons have 6 shots, a slow recharge rate, slow RoF and high damage. I've won gold plenty times with mine.

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Oh wow 0.0 Somehow, i always

Oh wow 0.0
Somehow, i always get silver or even bronze, while i'm using my Snow Wraith, Razorwhip or Whispering Death :/

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I've also noticed that I've

I've also noticed that I've been getting silver and bronze a lot recently. I might have to use some of these tips.

 

By the way, the infinite shot is NOT  a bug. The camps are MADE for us to refill at, and if someone wants to hover above one of them and aim, that's totally legal.

I recently leveled up my Changewing to an adult, and he's a pretty good fighter. I've only battled with him once, and I got silver, but I will keep trying.

 

My battle stratey is basically, use all of my dragon's fire, fly to a camp as fast as possible, and DIVE back down and repeat.

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Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him and he will make your paths straight.   -Proverbs 3:5-6

 

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                                                            Eek and his dragon, Ballista

 

 

Eek the Firetamer

Eek is an adventurous viking who has trained many dragons. He has had many adventures and encountered many dragons accross the Archipelago. He is a strategist (because he has needed to rescue friends or dragons numerous times). He has a sense of humor, and is very social. He likes spending his free time at the Training Grounds. He is a skilled fighter, and his weapon of choice is his ice axe. He can take on several Hunters at a time by himself, but on the back of his Triple Stryke, that's another story. 

 

Tribe: Hairy Hooligan

Clan: Hofferson

School Clan: Alpha Dragon Masters (Leader)(Please Join!)

Height: 5'8"

Age: 18

Hair Color: Brown

Eye Color: Brown

Dragons: Spineshot (Nadder), Fearless (Flightmare), Puddle (Raincutter), Windstorm (Thunderdrum), Bandit (Sand Wraith), Sandshadow (Sand Wraith), Hookflame (Nightmare), Mudfang (Moldruffle), Mudpuddle (Mudraker), Windscreech (Silver Phantom), Ingneous (Gronckle), Frostbite (Groncicle), Melodeadly (Death Song), Razerwind (Razorwhip), Slashtail (Razorwhip), Bandito (Armorwing), Furieflame (Singetail), Magmadon (Eruptodon), Arrow (Flame Whipper), Stormtail (Triple Stryke), Ballista (Triple Stryke), Cloudbreaker (Stormcutter), Boulderburst (Snafflefang)

Main Dragon: Ballista

 

Main Weapon: Ice Axe

Archenemies: Nikora Stormheart, Harald Forkbeard

 

 

Ballista:

Ballista edit by DuckinaDragon

Ballista is a male Triple Stryke, and is about 3 months old. He has been with Eek ever since he was born. His mother was enslaved by a war cheiftain from accross the sea. Ballista's personality is very similar to that of Sleuther, but more rebellious. He (like his rider) has a sense of humor, and he is very intelligent. He will protect Eek at all costs, and will not hesitate to fight. He is no stranger to combat, as he was once captured and held in dragon fights. This was only briefly, as Eek was captured too, and helped to rescue him. Eek could not ask for a better dragon. If you don't see Eek around Berk or the School, he's probably above the clouds on Ballista's back.

 

Race: Dragon

Species: Triple Stryke

Gender: Male

Length: 30' 2"

Color: Light Copper with cream stripes and a golden belly.

Favorite Food: Eggs

Age: 3 months

Stage: Broadwing

 

 

Other interests: Star Wars, MARVEL, DC.

 

 

My creation: The Rocket Ripper (if it was in the movie franchise)

 

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With the infinite shot bug people mean the actual bug, which is different from the strat where people shoot from the recharging point.

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Oh, I didn't even know there

Oh, I didn't even know there was an infinite shot bug. Hope that gets fixed, that doesn't sound very fair.

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heres my 2c

You won't get hit as much from the very back or front of the ship. If you use a dragon which uses all of its shots quickly, then positioning yourself directly infront of it is good. If you have the time to spare, getting yourself behind it is also handy. You can also use space+shift at the same time to keep a slow steady pace to stay right behind it too.

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Thanks + Update

Thanks for all the advice and discussion guys! I've checked in a few times, sorry I haven't written a response till now. I'll definitely keep it all in mind, and I think once I get 250 more gems I'll get a scauldron. 

 

HOWEVER in the meantime I've been trying a somewhat-unconventional strategy I thought you all might wanna know about. 

 

I realized when my fireworm queen grew up a few days ago that fireworms have fairly high damage (15) a low shot limit (6) BUT they reload super fast, faster than any other dragon I have that I've noticed. 

 

SO the past few battles I've been trying the long-distance shooting on my fireworm queen. And...I suck at aiming, I always have in shooter games. But I'm getting the hang of it, last battle I think I only did slightly worse than I would've with the conventional strategy on my Nightmare. She seems to work well because the shots reload as quickly as she can fire them at a base, and you can rapid-fire pretty well. I still suck at aiming but I'm slowly figuring out the timing between diving and shooting. 

 

(This also means fireworms would probably be catastrophic if you used the 200 shot glitch but I don't know how to do that and I'm not interested in semi-cheating)

 

Just wanted to let you know, if it turns out to be a great strategy I guess now it's out in the open, but I don't mind sharing advice on this site with others who have helped me out a bunch.