Post your oc designs here!
Is that directed at me? Because i did give credit for one of the images, & would for the others if i knew, or had a way to find out....
((note that i don't find all the images i post on my own, i use a computer that i share with my parents & siblings, who also find images online))
If you don't know you shouldn't use it. Things you find on Google are not free to use just because they are on Google or whatever search engine you use. These engines generally don't have a public domain filter and will show you an image regardless of whether or not the artist is ok with people using their work. The fact that your siblings find some of the images does not change this ether.
If you don't know or don't care who drew it, don't repost it. It's really simple in the world of the internets. It takes what, 3 seconds to find the artist of a piece & ask for permission or check their rules? so any excuses regarding it 'taking too much time' or 'well I already had it in my files anyway so' just come over as incredibly contemptible- it makes you look like you don't want to bother or even care about fairness in the first place.
(also the replies went haywire, y'all know who I'm replying to though)
It does, since i couldn't give credit... ((Could you all please stop arguing? This was just meant to be something fun, not a ring-side catfight :( ))
Depends on what your definition of an argument is. I don't think anyone's trying to be overly harsh. I know I'm not. I'm just saying that some of these artists might be annoyed with you if they found out you were using their art without their permission. They couldn't take legal action or anything because it is fan art but there is a good chance that if they knew they would be upset. I just want you to know that.
Thank you for saying your not trying to be harsh. I felt that you kind of were, both you & Varku, when i just made a simple mistake, & all i wanted was some nice replies on some stuff i felt insecure about. It makes me feel a little better to know thats not how you were trying to come across as. To me, it didn't come across that you were trying to make that point. I know that's a possibility, & if someone was mad, then i would gladly apoligize & remove/give credit at request. I never aim to hurt people's feelings, or steal art, if thats what i was doing ((Which i'm sure i wasn't)). If i came across that way, i'm sorry.
Very few people who steal art are trying to steal art (other than trolls). It's usually just a mistake and they don't realize how a particular action makes artists feel. A lot of people end up doing it before they realize it is wrong too. If someone is telling you something you don't want to hear try not to automatically take it personally because theres a good chance the person is not trying to be mean. It's difficult to get one's tone across through words alone and words is all the forum gives us.
No it doesn't. Couldn't give credit is not an exuse. It's just not.
Technically speaking, it's not that big of a deal, from a certain point of view. It's not as if the art was claimed to be theirs, which is, in fact, art theft. If someone claims to have made a piece of art that is not theirs, that is considered plagiarism. Crediting an artist for something, even if they don't know the name of said artist, is giving that artist the respect they deserve. Using it and giving credit is one thing- claiming to have done the art is a whole other matter entirely.
If someone had claimed to have done a piece of art that isn't theirs, that is a big deal. If someone gives credit, even without having the name of the artist, is still recognizing them for the work they have done. Though it's not advisable for extensive use, if the character is underdeveloped and the owner of the OC doesn't have access to any way to distinguish the character, it's not wrong for them to use something they found. Google Search is open to the whole world.
Anyways, just thought I'd say that.
How did i get into another argument again? -cries- There goes my promise to never get involved with another internet argument again ((Now is when i wish you could erase replys & untrack a thread))
Eh, I kind of regret posting earlier, but I felt like I should say something. I might've misinterpreted the situation slightly .-. Ah well.
In other news, Grumpy, I love your characters <3 It's nice to see how much thought and time have been put into them.
Thank you so much for the support -hugs friend- I felt very alone until you posted. Yeah, i regret posting as well :P From now on, i'm going to only post my ocs in private messages to friends ((Speaking of that, would you like to chat though pm about eachother's ocs? I like yours, & you seem like an awesome christain fangirl to fangirl with X3))
Yes, I would love that! An OC chat would be fantastic X3 And thank you for the compliment! ^^ :D *hugs*
If it helps there's nothing wrong with the characters themselves. I was just a little put off from the way you got your visual representations of them. My favrot is probably the boy with the thunderdrum. Do think of making a fanfic with them would you? I want to know how they ended up together as I asked before.
I think it's worth noting that if someone has a problem with one part of a character that doesn't mean they dislike the character as a whole.
Since you asked, maybe. I haven't yet, & if i do, it won't be for awhile. I have three fanfics planned after the Winter Rider, & if he were to appear he'd be in the third or second ((Slim chance for the second though)). Brightlocks met Rumble after he left the rest of the family as they were leaving Ireland. She attacked his boat, because she thought he was some barbarian. He had heard how people could train dragons, so he decided to give it a try. He was able to show Rumble he meant no harm, then was able to train her. But it was Rumble who did most of the work, since she actually liked him from the start. In fact, she's more the one who does the training.
Sorry for unintentionally starting that argument up there *facepalms*
Totally didn't mean to accuse you of anything, I just noticed that I'd seen that drawing before. (Great going Stormy, you're being very helpful right now... gah.) Sorry again!
It's a big deal to the artist and I think the artist's opinion matters.
Plus I'm talking about when they don't credit and say "I would have if I could have" which many artists find insulting. Not when they do. Usually it's not even h.ard. If you're looking through the images search of Google and you find a nice picture just click on the picture and half the time there's your artist right there. If you can't at the very least bother to show where you got the image don't use that image. It's that simple.
It not being that big of a deal is subjective. If someone doesn't care doesn't mean no one else should either.
She literally stole characters though? She didn't just take art for face characters, but even took their names and 'butchered' the story the original artist had for them. If that's not blatant theft & disregard for the artist, I don't know what is.
Also 'credit to whomever drew it' is not and will never be respectful- to the contrary- it's everything BUT respectful. Not taking the time to learn the name of your 'supplier' (in that sense) is rude and disrespectful. If you give 'ghost credit', you are NOT giving the artist the recognition they deserve, you're just being disdainful towards them.
Theft comes in many forms, but taking characters and claiming them as your own is still theft, whether someone scribbled over the original art or didn't. Scribbling over it is even worse, yes, but they're both guano things to do.
"Google Search is open for the whole world" - This just... no. This is something many art thieves tend to say for some reason, but why?Something being on google doesn't mean you can just take it. Never has and never will and I don't know where some people even get this misinformation from. Google is a search engine, not a free stock photo supplier.
I agree with your statement. Art theft isn't excusable, and crediting the artist is important. I never said I was supporting the defacing of other's characters, and using their designs for their own. I was saying, if you have no easy or quick way to distinguish a character, then Google search is an engine many people will go to- most of them unwitting of art theft. After all, Google search is...a search engine. And search engines are used to...search for things. Even I need to be better about this, which is something I will quickly admit to.
I will be leaving this thread. I dislike internet drama, but I thought maybe I should attempt and restate my response to the argument that broke out. If the artist is credited, that's well and good. If it isn't, it is a mistake that is not the end of the universe. Disrespectful to the artist? Yes. It is, but it is a mistake that can be remedied quickly. Namely, by choosing to not do it again.
Have a good day, both of whom replied <3
I must have misunderstood what you said earlier then. I thought you were implying that it's okay to take omething off Google just like that. My bad!
This isn't drama, this is just people calling out art theft. Not everything that isn't positive has to be drama, or an argument as I've seen some people call it. :þ
If art is credited it doesn't have to be well and good. Crediting the artist doesn't automatically mean you're allowed to nab someone's artwork. Just taking something and 'giving credit' whereas the artist may not even want someone else to use it like that is still rude. I don't know where 'credit the artist and everything is good!' came from, but it's simply not true.
And yes, it's definitely not the end of the world and it can be remedied quickly, but unfortunately some people will simply keep doing it regardless of the fact that they know they're doing something wrong, rude and disrespectful. Still, if people really want to steal and plagiarise, that's fine, but it doesn't come without a price. The price being shunned and disrespected by online art communities, and those stigmas don't easily go away depending on one's internet footprint.
In the end, it's the choice of the artist/thief whether they steal or not, but they shouldn't ever be exempt of critique. Theft should never be free game :þ
Hope you don't mind me joining this.
My opinion quickly:
"Crediting an artist for something, even if they don't know the name of said artist, is giving that artist the respect they deserve."
"Google Search is open to the whole world."
No and no.
Saying "credit goes to whoever made this" is like giving credit to air. Also, you can easily find pictures from google and it doesn't matter whether or not those are free to use or not.
Now the real reason why I joined.
It's really easy and quick to search for the original picture and artist.
Let's use the picture Squid used for Skari, but didn't know who made it, as an example.
First right click and choose "search picture (google)". (Or something like that. I tried to translate but it can be something completely different.)
Next, let's look around a little bit. Oh, it seems like you can find a similar picture on Printest.
(Similar because it does have the picture as a top but it also has a second set of references for some other character. Because both are drawn in the same style it's easy to assume that this is (however you do share in Printest) from the original picture)
Let's see. Ooh, we got lucky. The person has credited the original artist. And the credit goes to "Zanariya on DevianArt".
Now we just search for the user in DevianArt, look around their gallery, and bam.
This process took... about a minute. And it wasn't so hard. So none of you can't say that you have no way of knowing who the original artist was.
the captcha for this was: Location avenue
Might I add that even though it's very hit-and-miss, Tineye is also a tool worth using! It sometimes even picks up on edited/traced works too. It doesn't show 'similar' images but tries to search for the image itself, which is pretty neat. If Google's reverse search doesn't do what I want it to do, Tineye usually will.
As you can see, I am not an artist, I just draw when I'm bored.
Regardless, here's what I drew when I was bored yesterday:
It's my OC, Paz, at different ages. And in case you're wondering, no, the cloak is not supposed to be transparent. Also, the braid's of the two in the middle aren't normally draped over their shoulder, I just wanted to make sure they were seen.
Anyhow, the ages shown here are 9 (When HTTYD happened), 13 (When she started at School of Dragons), 15 (Where she is currently and when she got the scar on her eye), and 18 (The design itself is not the final version most likely)
Well, I've recently been developing a new OC, so I thought I might post her here. Tell me what you think of her! And if you have any ideas for me, feel free to share! I might need them...
Fridr (don't know her last name yet) and Thistlefrost
(Yes, that picture is by me.)
Fridr is really shy and awkward around other people. She makes my other OC look like an extrovert, compared to her! Family is under construction, but I know she's got a big, burly father that's very exuberant. Sort of like Hagrid in appearance, but much cheerier. She might have an older brother, too. She currently lives in Berk, but may have come from another place with her family. If so, she came from a very warrior-like tribe that was very close-knit and friendly with each other, but Fridr stood out because of her disliking of weapons.
Fridr is scared of a lot, including heights, the dark, weaponry and other things made to cause harm, and until recently, dragons. Her hobbies include composing poetry and reading, but I'm not sure yet what else she likes to do.
Thistlefrost is the semi-reluctant leader of a pack of tiny Prickleboggles. I say semi-reluctant here because he doesn't think he's a good leader, but he has a strong protective instinct that flares up whenever someone he cares for is threatened. Despite this, though, he's not a fighter, and prefers to avoid conflict if possible. He's skittish around those he doesn't know, unless they're injured.
The pair met when Fridr got injured somehow, and Thistlefrost healed her, staying near her to make sure she was alright, causing the two to start forming a bond. They both love helping others and later start an official dragon care clinic after being asked to help injured dragons so often.
Anyone have any critiques?
Well. I like the color of blue you picked on that dragon. Not really a critique but I figured it was worth saying.
Heh, thanks. I'm an obsessive color matcher, so they had to have similar colors. HAD to XD
Completely unrelated note, does anyone know of a good last name generator?
Alrighty, might as well post a few of my chars here because why noooot XD
First up, the dashing, charismatic, and loyal (read: not at all) Skari.
(This image ain't mine, creds go to whoever the artist is. I was searching for something that accurately represented him in this sort of sketch-like style. If I knew the artist, I'd credit 'em, but for now this is as good as I've got. In other news, they did a very excellent job.)
Skari grew up in a peaceful tribe (Much like the Peacables from the HTTYD books, for those who know what I'm talking about), and he left at a young age on the hunt for adventure. He practically raised himself, along with his boisterous and lively friend Alf. He's a treasure hunter and a thief for hire, often ending with him on the wrong end of a sword. He can wriggle his way out of the most precarious situations, and has a reputation for being as slippery as an eel and as sly as a snake. Besides this, he has a quick wit and is actually pretty funny and a good friend, for those of whom stick around long enough to get to know him. Advice from anyone who has met him: NEVER, EVER TRUST HIM! Not with valuables, not with weapons, nothing. Ever.
Then, there's Stormy, my overzealous Viking character who likes throwing things- especially sharp things. She's an interesting case, most often found riding her Skrill and terrorizing civilians or...yeah, you guessed it, throwing axes. And she's a full-blooded- Surprise! - Berserker. Shocking....no pun intended.
Though she seems a little out there and probably mentally unstable, she's a loyal friend through and through and will stick to you until the bitter end.
Done by the fantabulous TohiLosi.
And lastly, my HTTYD Book OC Rusty of the Meatheads. She's cheerful, lively, and pretty inventive. Exactly as you might expect from a Meathead, she's as stubborn as an ox, and once she has a goal, there isn't anything that will stop her. She loves constructing devices, especially if they're destructive, and they only work 30% of the time- but no one's going to tell her otherwise!
Anyways, those are only a few of my OCs...I have a bunch more. Those are just the ones you'll see a lot on the forums.
This is Kuba. I am finishing up Guardians of Siide to set up for the next novel. Kuba is the main character in the next novel: Rebels of Nesqio
At first, Kuba was a character made out of boredom, and for fun. Kuba was based off of John Cooper, the singer and bassist of the band Skillet. Since he likes to be called 'Doggie' I found it funny if I would draw him as a dog. I deleted the first picture because I needed to save memory. Kuba, or at that time, John Cooper, just sat there alone for a while though I got my main OC Tatus already. Though, a couple of times it would be kinda cool to fit his design into my series, although it would be better to make some adjustments.
A while later, I decided to make another drawing of him with Tatus just for fun and practice. That picture is also deleted. Though I am still intrigued by the design, after another while I finally made John a character. The personality, appearance, voice, and even name would be based off of the real guy, but obviously I can't keep it. I have to make tweaks, not just because its too close to a real person but it also needs to fit in the Uribian environment.
First thing was to change his name. This took me a couple of minutes to come up with the perfect one that fits into the boundary, Kuba. The second was the species. As a random design, I looked for a species of dog that looks the closest like the original. The Jack Russell Terrier was the best fit, and finally, the character. The personality is at least based off of the original design, but I made him a little more outgoing and enthusiastic, but yet insecure and a little less playful.
The newer designs of him has made the final tweaks and now he is going to be in the next novel. He has finally became an official OC.