Johann the Trader (SPOLIERS ALERT)

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This is for anyone who wants to rant about Trader Johann or now as commonly known as Traitor Johann!!! Hereyou can yell, complain, and rant about Johann!!!

 

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Меня зовут вала. Я пришел из страны полуночного солнца. Моя миссия-стать актрисой. Я всегда любил животных и хочу подружиться много. У меня очень грустное и удручающее время. Надеясь, что это изменится. Я также хочу распространить Евангелие Иисуса Христа всем и всем людям!!

 

 Decipher this and you will get my mission in life.

 

Îmi place să-mi fac prieteni noi, dar sunt introvertit.

 

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(if you want to know more about the real me and some funny things...scroll down)

 

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My name is Valasari, Viking from the Isle of Vanaheim. Home to the sick and elderly dragons who make their final pilgrimage to this sacred land. Not many Vikings have made it past the unblinking Sentinel gaurdians, who have stone-like statue appearances and have the element of surprise upon unsuspecting Vikings. They are actually blind, therefore rely on their hearing & smell. They have better hearing than most dragons because of their blindness.

 

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Saharii--Adult Rumblehorn

Zeena--Teen Monstrous Nightmare

 

 

Role Plays I am In:

I know...I need to get a life.

 

Messengers of Light

 

Between Two Worlds

 

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The SweetWraith

 

The Elven''s Hope

 

Kalelians in Milldrany

 

A Fusion's Will To Live

 

Dragon Evolution: Rise of the Hybrids

 

Dragon Evolution: The Treaty

 

The Enhanced

 

The Fall of the Elementals

 

Dark Future 

 

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   ABOUT ME

 

I come from the Isle of Vanaheim. So far, the Sentinels have trusted me enough to live among the poor old dragons on this sacred Island. Of course, my Dragons are with me. They had to prove that they were trustworthy, as well as loyal. I have sadly moved away from Vanheim to live in the School. My goal is to become an Ultimate Dragon Trainer and then go back to Vanaheim!! I wish to see the Sentinels again....someday, after I have achieve my goal.

 

   ABOUT MY DRAGONS

 

I saved Saharii from a devastating situation. Dragon Hunters had caged him, but Hiccup and I rescued him just in time.

Now, Zeena, on the other talon, has a wonderful life, I am making sure of it. I wish to befriend more dragons. I hatched her from an egg and raised her. With some help from Saharii.

 

Join me in my quest to save dragons from scum like the Dragon Hunters and Viggo. And as far as dragons are concerned...I wouldn't trade them for anything.....Would You?

 

 

 

   THINGS I LOVE!

 

​0.The Avengers!--DUH! They are amazing!!

1. SilverWeed San--She is my favorite Youtuber!

2.Dragons!--WHO ON LOKI ISLAND doesn't LOVE dragons.

3.Horses--Beautiful animals

4.Razorwhips--my favourite dragons

5.My animals...'cause...well...just 'cause.

6.Reptiles--Who dosn't like scaly creatures?

7.Lord of the Rings--Obviously 'cause Gandolf is AWESOME and Legalos too

8.School of Dragons--Uh...I don't know what to say but I wish I could play it MORE!

 

 

​Favorite Books

Wings of Fire  Tui.T. Sutherland

Pegasus Kate O'hearn

Narnia C.S.Lewis

Shadow Horse Alison Heart

​A Horse of Her Own Annie Wedekind

Menagerie Tui T. Sutherland

Buddy H. M. Herlong

(That's not all....but all my wittle brain could think of)

 

 

 

Funny things

 

I'm NOT clumsy. It's just that the floor hates me. The tables and chairs are bullies and the Wall Gets In The WAY!!

 

 

When someone told me I was in a fantasy, I fell off my Unicorn.

 

Friend: Did you fall?

Me: No, I attacked the floor.

Friend: Backwards?

Me: I'm freakin' talented!!!!!

The morale of this story. Just believe the cold truth that you're a Klutz. 'Cause I sure am.

 

If a robber broke into our house to search for money....I would laugh and search with him.

 

I hate it when people text me and it says "call me". One day I am going to call someone and say "text me".

 

I can't dance to save my life, but when I step in dog poo, I can moondance better than Michael Jackson. =)

 

 

 

Dad jokes:

 

 Dad lookes at me....."You know hon, I couldn't find a single shoe shop today". I breathe in a sigh of relief, knowing that he won't make a bad joke. Dad: "They only sold them in pairs". I bang my head on the wall.

 

Dad dances around in front of the ATM machine. Me: what are you doing? Dad: Just checking my balance. Me: *walks away to the car*

 

Dad in the morning: You know I stayed up all night wondering where the sun went....then it dawned on me.

 

Dad: Yesterday I ate a clock..it was very time consuming...especially when I went back for seconds!!

 

Dad: What's the difference between a piano, a tuna, and a pot of glue? Me: I don't know. Dad: You can tuna piano, but you can't piano a tuna. Me: What about the pot of glue? Dad: I knew that you would get stuck on that! Me: OHHHHHHHHHH

 

Dad: Did you hear about the guy in KC who was addicted to brake fluid? Me: No..... Dad: Good news! He can stop at any time.

 

Dad and I were at the store and he picks up the velcro: I wouldn't buy anything with velcro....it's a total rip-off.

 

Mom asks dad at Thanksgiving: How does the turkey smell? Dad: Through its nose, I guess. Me: I'm going to bed.

 

Dad after a nice hot shower: You know..... Me: Here it comes. Dad: Singing in the shower while washing your hair is all good 'till you get soap in your mouth.....it then it just becomes a soap opera....

 

That's All Folks!!

for now.....(evil laugh)

 

 

 

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Spoilers ahead! Tread lightly!

Squiid's opinion on the topic:

BLEEEP BLEEP BLEEEEEEEP BLEEP BLEEEEEEEEP BLEEP

bleep.

In case anybody didn't catch that, the bleeping was my rage expressed in children-friendly terms. So much rage. So mMUUUUCH RAGEEEEE.

I've been watching the show long enough to say I remember when Johann ever first appeared: Dragon Flower, in CartoonNetwork's Riders of Berk. He was the funny, enjoyable comedy relief who seemed to have bad luck follow him wherever he went. He is- ahem, was- a lovable character who was always great to see, as the seasons passed and he made more appearances. Of course, I was thrilled to see him return in Race to the Edge. "Yay, Johann the Comedy Relief is back!" my naive self cheered with glee.

As the seasons went on, I never once doubted him. NOTTA ONCE. All the mistakes, all those slip-ups that he ended up making (just rewatch with "Traitor Johann" in mind, you'll see), and I didn't catch it. Not a wink or a blink. And I wasn't around on the forums ever, so I had no idea he would even do something, much less...

That.

So that day, my sister and two friends and fellow fans got together to watch the seasons. And that night (got a little delayed, but that made it SO MUCH BETTER) we watched Sins of the Past.

The episode was a high-intensity one anyway and we were all on the edge of our seats, and then...the plot twist dropped.

It was 1 AM and I can safely say I have never heard 4 teenagers shriek "HOW COULD YOU!" at the top of their lungs, all at once. Swearing, loud yelling, and rolling around ensued as we dropped to the floor and screamed into our pillows as the episode ended. 

1 AM turned into 2 and 3 AM and we stayed up all night, raging at Johann and discussing conspiracy theories about the seasons to come. So, in summary, I am not happy with Johann. My friends are not happy with Johann. THE PRESIDENT IS NOT HAPPY WITH JOHANN. THE WORLD IS NOT HAPPY WITH JOHANN.

*takes deep breaths*
Oh, thank you. I needed that.

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IKR!!!

I understand the bleep bleep, Bleep, BLEEEEPPPP!!!! I ws watching. Then at the part when Johann started talking, my lil sis paused it and left and said "Be right back". I sat there for FIVE minutes trying to figure out who was talking . I knew I had heard the voice before but.....then when she un paused I was SERIOSLY BLOWN AWAY!!!! NOOOOO!! JOHAnn!!! WE TRUSTED YOU!!!! HOW......COULD.....YOU!! That is literally what I said. Then I cursed under my breath in Russian so my lil sis wouldn't ask...questions.

 

Vent all you want...this is what this is meant for....RAGE VENTING!!!

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*burps*

I honestly didn't that one coming, so I commend the writers on catching me off guard with it! Lol, I was legitimately shocked. While I know Johann is most likely a traitor, part of me wants to believe that the "evil" dude at the end actually captured the real Johann, and posed as him to get information.  Maybe the real Johann that we know and love is locked up somwehere...

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YES!

That's the SPIRIT!! Nice enthusiasm! (even if it's probably not true) IT COULD HAPPEN!!

*my lil sis* "What do you mean 'IT COULD HAPPEN'  it will"

ENTHUSIASM!!

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I feel like I was the only one who actually saw this coming. Ever since the beginning of that episode I had my suspicions. Traitor Johann would say things like "I am so sorry, why do I always have to be so clumsy?" And I would think back "because your evil'!" It was really more of a joke. Then... As the episode progressed I became even more and more sure that he actually was. When they dropped the plot twist I just stared at the TV blankly, completely and utterly unsuprised. I honestly want to see where this goes, I'm not mad by Turn Coat Johann, it intruges me.

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Aeryn also has a sense of show-off-ness, an over-the-top, dramatic character. She takes any given situation, brandishes it with a flare of sarcasm and performs, drawing attention to herself all the while managing to act edgy or sweet, or however she wanted to be perceived. This need of hers to put on a show made her invaluable to the man while she was on his side. Like the theatre kid she should be, Aeryn has expertly crafted this skill of taking on different personas, and she isn't afraid to add in some cliche drama to her dialogue and actions. Constantly referencing pop-culture, Aeryn is interesting, but the tiring person to be around. The problem with her extroverted, boldness is that few get to witness the actual Aeryn, not one of her many characters. In a sense, it is quite similar to the multifaceted personality disorder, only, Aeryn recognizes her many personas. She chooses not to show anyone her true colors due to some insecurities. These different personalities are the shields she has put up for emotional protection. With Aeryn, you never know if her reactions are genuine or just part of the show

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I'm with you there, sista; as soon as the episode "Searching for Oswald... and Chicken" ended with Trader-- *ahem* excuse me, TRAITOR Johann informing Heather with some news that Oswald the Agreeable was still alive even though we, the audience, already came to realize that he's *spoiler alert* passed away back at Vanaheim, and at that point I thought "Okay, yeah, there's Trader Johann-- once again, he's clumsily leading one of our heroes into danger..." Then while watching "Sins of the Past" throughout the time, I thought it was just gonna be another cat and mouse chase episode like most of the others, but with Heather's involvment and a notice that she's had a Dragon Lens stashed onto her belt buckle THIS WHOLE TIME?!?! I'll rant about that later-- anyway, as soon as the part where Johann was riding alongside Snotlout on his dragon, Hookfang, as the whole cast was playing "Hot Potato" with Heather's Dragon Lens, I noticed at the very, VERY moment both Snotlout and Johann reach up to grab the lens and I saw with my very own eyes Johann's own hand LITERALLY ON PURPOSE smacks Snotlout's hand out of the way to let the lens fly right by out of their grasp and it lands right in Kroger's hands-- or whatever his name is!!!

 

I was dumbfounded at first, like this reaction gif here:

I play back that bit several times over, because I thought I was seeing things...

And after seeing the end of that episode, this is the reaction-- in my mind, mind you--

after finding Trader Johann becomes Traitor Johann:

 

 

I'll rant a little more about Johann later; goodnight.

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I know most of you think that they planned this so perfectly, dropping subtle hints every now and then, but I couldn't disagree more.

I don't think they thought this through, and I don't think they actually wanted Johann to take this route, I think they were trying to come up with some huge plot twist and came up with one that wasn't so good.

I mean, what? They've been planning this one episode of RTTE years before the show even came out? That doesn't really make sense.

I think, they added all those "hints" because it's a part of his character. Unlucky, slightly obnoxious, trouble follows him everywhere, seems like an awesomely hilarious character. Until they needed a twist. And they were able to turn pretty much everything about his character into a perfect set up for him being evil.

I never once doubted him, and honestly, this didn't exactly surprise me. Something was off about him, but I don't think this is the route that had in mind for his character.
I never doubted him and I still don't. Probably never will. Johann betrayed our trust, but I will always trust him.

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You are right. The writers probably did not even think that Johann was going to be evil until that episode, so, they only dropped hints there. It was only on that episode when I started to come onto Johann as a traitor.

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Time is the security blanket of the human race.

Trust me, there was planning. RoB and DoB, probably not as much, but I rewatched all of RTTE solely for that purpose. There are so many hints it's ridiculous, right up to Sins of the Past. Edge of Disaster? Johann purposely lured the Riders away so the Hunters could take the Edge, that wasn't happy coincidence. Easily something of Viggo's planning. Warning them to stay away from the Reaper? Hiccup got the Dragon Eye after going aboard. The list goes on and on, and from someone who has been writing for many years, that's an easy "he's gonna go bad". Just angry I missed it.

Those are only a few examples, when there are actually explanations in basically every episode Johann is in. Even back in Riders of Berk, when quite possibly Johann wasn't even planned to be evil, that can be marked as something darker and shady. He sold the Blue Oleander to Mildew, when he was likely fully aware of what it would be capable of. Though this might just be coincidences, it also points to Johann possibly even being shady before that. After all, he does state he's spent years building their trust. This can only mean he was planning something dark and devious during RoB and DoB, though I'm not sure on what it was. My theory on what Johann is doing is another matter entirely and pretty much plainly obvious to those who've been watching.

Also...isn't it a little bit of a daft move to trust someone who's clearly just betrayed you? I mean...that's not...that's not how you do things...

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Are you sure that was the sole purpose of watching it? *Coughs* Dagur! *Cough*

Yeah, people are saying that, I just disagree.

I suppose. I just am that way.

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Oh honey, if I wanted to rewatch for Dagur, I wouldn't have started with RTTE. Would have gone all the way back to RoB and started from there. (Spoiler alert: I did.)

by now everyone knows I'm obsessed with Dagur and I have zero shame

Wait, are you saying you'd just disagree to disagree? I mean, for example, if someone stated something that had enough facts to amount to truth (not necessarily this, because it doesn't), but you didn't like the idea of it, you'd just disagree...? hwa

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DAGUR!

You WATCH YOURSELF SOME DAGUR!!! I LOVE DAGUR TOO!! He is sooo amazing. I also love his Triple Styke, Sleuther!

I loved to watch RoB to RTTE and to see how he changes!

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Oh heck yeah, Dagur's the best. I love both antagonist and protagonist Dagur with equal adoration. I remember younger me watching the first episode he was ever in very shortly after it was released and going "oh yeah, that's my favorite character". Don't know why. Well, bless my soul because he turned out to be one of RTTE's best characters. Oh dang, shut me up quick, I could talk about Dagur for ages.

Anyways, yes, he's fantastic. And since he is now a good guy (yess!!!!) I can now state without shame Viggo is my favorite villain, lol
*quietly raises "#ViggoProtectionSquad" sign with a very sad expression*

Shh, don't tell anyone. But he's awesome too.

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Yeah, like you with Dagur, that was me work Viggo. From the moment I saw him I loved him. And my sister thinks I'm crazy for actually liking him, instead of liking to hate him.

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Oh, do I remember that

Oh, do I remember that day.

Wasn't even the release. One refresh on the grapevine and BOOM- a new clip just a few days before the release. And it was Viggo's introduction. I was literally bouncing in my seat. He's been the villain I've always wanted for the show; cunning, intelligent, manipulative. And he just got better and better. I...may or may not have cried a lot during Shell Shocked. Like dang. That wasn't the villain death I ever wanted. But okay.

Then Season 5, and a whole lot of breaking down the trailer I found out that there was almost a 90% chance he was actually alive, and I found the two frames with him barely in it...I screamed in my room. My sister can testify to this. Then the clip with his sword: screamed again, loudly. Then the first episode he was in during Season 5- my friend and my sister were there as I clung to my friend and cried. I'm insane. I'm so, so insane but it was worth it.

Season 5 Viggo has definitely been the best so far. He's grayed out as a villain now, and there's clearly an unrest with Krogan. He literally has nothing to live for anymore. And I so cannot wait to see where his character goes for Season 6. So. Much. Hype.

So yeah. That's another character Squiid's completely in love with.

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DAGUR!!!!!!!!

Not if the thing was true, but for now, (like you said) this doesn't have enough facts to amount to truth.

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It won't ever be "truth" until it's canon-confirmed. I'm just saying that you're ignoring some piled up facts that it was, in fact, planned. Of course we really have no way to know that unless something happens to let us know. I was just saying that not only myself have made enough connections via RTTE to conclude that the writers were likely planning it. And anyway, you don't just make someone bad on a whim. It basically has to be planned. Even if they were only planning it from the beginning of, say, Season 5, they didn't just come to Sins of the Past and go "oh, okay, let's make him evil now". There's just too much stacked against it.

Just like they didn't go to Shell Shocked Part 2 and say "oh, let's make everyone think we killed off Viggo". No, he has to be playing a bigger part in the show that they've planned, otherwise they would have killed him off. That's just how stuff works, or at least usually.

hek now I gotta go drink some tea because Johann is stressing me out

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JOHANN IS SUCH A STRESSING SUBJECT!

Okay so yes we might be making a big deal over nothing....*cough* *cough* So yes I agree with you Squiid!

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA Johann y

i will never sleep again

forever doomed to stay up all night in anger

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Cool!

​I already did that last night. I couldn't sleep....so I just laid there hoping it wasn't true!!!

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Does anyone, besides me, want to shoot Johann with a fireball when they see him in-game???.....I certainly do! Whenever I see him I want to just wipe off his smug grin!

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Nope! I'm a member of the Berk Watch. I do quite the opposite.

I block the shots.

If course, it doesn't really work because game, but yeah, I do it anyway. Same with Mildew. I saw a group on the chat Talking about going to insult Mildew, so I immediately flew to Icestorm Island and defended him.

Why? I don't really know. Because I believe in them, and that's what I do. That is who I am.

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Awesome!

Well....Berk Watch, huh.....that's cool!!!! I perfer to shoot first and ask questions later. Wait a second....nevermind, I like to skip the questions.....  :D :S That's really cool that you belive in second chances....in my life I have given too many second chances and it made me.....well nevermind....

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Yeah, I took the whole "joining the Berk Watch" thing really seriously. I fight to protect everyone in the school and out, not because they deserve it, but because I love them.

I personally always ask questions first and shoot later. It drives me crazy Ellen people just start fighting and neither of them know why they are fighting. *Cough cough Avengers when they meet Thor cough cough*

Yeah, sometimes it doesn't end well, but I believe in people, and sometimes it can change them, I've seen it happen myself. And trust me, it is worth every time it didn't end well.

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Hard......

That was very emotional......it's just really hard to forgive people once they hurt you and you trusted them......like what Johnn is doing right now.....

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Trader sounds like traitor and I never really liked him from the beginning because he's annoying like Snotlout once said. But the ending was a big surprise and I love it when that happens. A character in the series that seems like he would never betray the Riders but at the end he does. Or so we think. It could just be a map of an island that used to have dragons but they became extinct or they moved on.

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HA!

Johann was always so...umm...babyish....if you know what I am trying to say... So you know this was a shocker.....

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Aaaaaaaaah stupid traitor me and my dragon are coming here to ki.ll you and then re-ki.ll you 

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I've ha.ted you since the first HTTYD series!!!

 

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Johan

What can I say? I mean, that hasn't been said?

Sure there where points where he might have been evil all along, but then why?????

He helps Heather, I mean, helps her for years to avenge her parents! And like, she had the lenses all along.

GASP!!! WAIT!!!!

Heather showed up in I believe episode nine in RTTE, and guess what? She had that lenses all along!

I mean, I saw the lenses when we met her again and was like, "Could you give that to Hiccup? When are you gonna give it to him? Someone notivpce please! Hiccup: We found another lenses! We will unlock more dragon secrets! Me: Hiccup seriously, your girlfriends best friend wears one on her belt!"

When Snotlout pointed out that they never noticed I was all "Yes!!! Finally!! Someone said it!!!

I mean, the designers gave her this at the beginning of the show, and I mean, if they did that,then they might have been planning Johan for a baddy since the beginning of RTTE!

Not saying there's a lot of evidence, but still, that lenses has to make you think.

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Yeah. The fandom has been raving about Heather's lense ever since the first episode she was in, it's pretty obvious it's there. And so I thought it was pretty funny that Snotlout (and Hiccup later) literally said what we've been saying all along: HOW DID YOU NOT NOTICE THE LENSE??

Guess the writers knew we'd see it first and wonder why the Riders missed it, so the characters mocked the fact they missed it. Ah, good times. 

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JOHANN

I saw Heather's lense a couple times after she was first featured in RTTE, but at first it didn't sink in....then it hit me in Searching for Ozwald.....and Chicken! I had NO idea! But, yes he DID help everyone and act like  helpless bafoon just so he could gain their trust. The nerve of that scoundral!!

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GUys, even if he is evil. I

GUys, even if he is evil. I still can’t imagine him not messing up in some way. I bet you somehow he’s just gonna go be making way too many mistakes. Sometimes the actor becomes the actee, meaning: if he has acted clumsy and cowardly for so many years he may accidentally develop that persona.

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Yeah...it is. But lucky for me, I had help.