Important Information on Hacker Allegations

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Woah...

Once again, that was nice of Anonymous to do this. Honestly, I find it weird that a HACKER is more useful than the Admins right now.

But I have one question. If Timberjacks were bugs, wouldn't it effect thousands of players? Why would it effect a select few players? But this is still proof that Timberjacks are indeed hacked.

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I also find it weird that a

I also find it weird that a hacker was more help than the admins in this case.

If the Timberjack was a bug, I'm  pretty sure it wouldn't only affect 4 players.

But I'm also happy that Siren is being active on this thread, and responding to us. Brynjolf isn't being that active, but he still made this thread to tell us. So thanks to them ^^

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this person is good and should be apart of the sod team

he might like the game the way it was so he's hacking the game back to the way it was.

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True that.

Yeah, honestly, why don't they just hire him? I mean he's actually helping those who got their accounts hacked. Yet it takes forever for the Admins to do anything.

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I'm kinda confused. . .

So is he a hacker, but using his hacks for good? Like, helping hacked accounts get back to normal?

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Well done Diamond... Thankyou Anonymous :)

I was wondering if I could have gems placed into my account.  I feel SoD owes us all big payment of gems lol

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lol ikr? i've actually been

lol ikr? i've actually been having a problem since the end of December where the game wouldn't let me earn gems, and the admins didnt even respnd to me yet. I've sent many pm's but they still didnt reply :/ i guess i'll be missing out on this weeks dragon... again.

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Wow!

Wow oh wow!!!! the minimalizing and unjust rationalizing by the SOD Team, Unspeakable :O

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Thank you for responding to all these hacking accusations - it gives a lot of insight as to what is happening.

I understand that it will take a while to uncover the truth - this past weekend, the forum has literally imploded with posts about the hackers and what will happen. And, the news that you are trying to fix this is awesome, thank you!

 

The only thing I want to respectfully disagree with you is that Timberjacks were not 'hacked' into our accounts. (I personally was not hacked, but I have been reading many of the posts about it - feel free to correct me if i get something wrong.) I was a witness to Might Wind Rider being hacked and riding about on a Timberjack. From what I have seen, I have every reason to believe that she was being hacked at the time and the real Storm was somewhere else.  

I have literally no knowledge of hacking, so don't quote me on this, but you admins seem confused on how Timberjacks can get into an account. This is just a hypothesis, but I'm thinking that the hackers are going into these people's accounts and hacking a dragon from the game's files into that account. Again, it's just a hypothesis, don't quote me on it.

Still, I am very grateful that you admins have replied and said you are trying to fix the hacking problem. Good luck and thank you!

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Thank you Brynjolf for this

Thank you Brynjolf for this thread and thank you Siren for your work on responding to everyone here. Hope & Faith for the future of SoD

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Please Admins, don’t take this the wrong way. I do not want to come across as rude, but I think SOMEONE need to say this:

 

WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!

 

Timberjacks, a BUG? SERIOUSLY! THAT IS THE MOST REDICULOUS THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!

 

I have proof: IF Timberjacks WERE a bug. Wouldn’t it mean THOUSANDS (if not MILLIONS) of players got one in their account? I mean, THINK ABOUT IT! Why would only a select few, not to mention the well-respected players (who are hated by ALL hackers), get them! If it was a bug EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE ONE!!!

 

I give you my deepest apologies about this post, but I’m sorry, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT TIMBERJACKS ARE A BUG!

 

I WILL continue be posting about HACKERS, I WILL be STRIKING IN FEBRUARY, I WILL fight until this WAR IS OVER!

 

I reject this explanation. (But thank you to the Admins for trying!)

 

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Are you all saying that to you calm down or something? I don't believe on that explanation that the Timberjacks on people's accounts are just a bug in the game coding.
 
And about deleting the Jacob accounts, did the team just delete it or IP blocked him? They're obviously made by the same person (And, I believe, the owner of this Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_8eiQj45KCTxGUSOZNnPsw). If you all only deleted his accounts, will this do anything? He can just make new ones and hack everything again. I don't know much about coding and all, but I'm sure you can IP block someone, wouldn't this be better? It's comproved that he's a Hacker, and only will be bad to this game, so why let him around?
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I have a question what hacker

I have a question what hacker acounts did you get rid of Jacod teufel etc?

So is it safe to go into multiplayer and not get hacked

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Teufel and his clan was still

Teufel and his clan was still there 2 hours ago when I was on

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I want to thank you admins,

I want to thank you admins, for your hardless work and responds to us. Although there are still things needed to be done, this is a good a start.

And I want to give my opinion here (please don't be harsh on me if you don't agree with me). I don't think it is possible to get rid of ALL the hackers, and have a game without ANY hackers. Because it's like a universal law, the way of life. The good and the bad must be together. Just like ying and yang. The good and the bad form a whole, if there was only good, it would be only half. There is a saying in our language, which can be translated as: 'If you like the rose, you have to tolerate the thorns'. If we love this game, we have to tolarete the bad ways.

I don't say that we mustn't fight against the hackers, I just wanted to look at this issue from another viewpoint. But what we can do is not destroy the bad, but keep it under control, and not let them do bad things. Personality can't be changed, but the actions can.

Soryy if this is a little bit confusing, I just wanted to give my opinion ^-^. Keep up the good work admins!

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Indeed! to say it was a bug

Indeed! to say it was a bug is outrageous..for basic factors involved proving otherwise..., Absolutely not Logical.. Of course there is the contradiction..that the Timberjack is Hacked quite often... To persuade us to believe this a BUG when it so Obviously seen with the Physical Eyes how easy players hack the Timberjack..is IDK completely and utterly ridiculous to me... But on  a positive note>>> I do appreciate<<<< FINALLY>>> to see the Cheaters are being dealt with! along with Your Public response~~ I thank you!

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Exactly! The fact it's being

Exactly! The fact it's being said to be a bug... No offence or anything and I don't mean to be rude, but it's ridiculous! However, I am still very grateful that the admins are working on this long over-due problem.

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Hey hey hey SoD team. How long time! 

I'm trying to read all comments. Siren, really? This is not a bug. How can you say that four players got the same bug? And if you have not noticed; Might Wind Rider, Dassigny, Artemiaz and Diamond Racer. What they all have in common? The Phantom Lords' leader, TPL member, TPL ex-member, TPL member. Did you noticed something? 

 

Jacob is a hacker and he can be found so easily. Really, if I want, I can go and talk to him. He is not the problem here. But that Teufel is the problem. At least Jacob haven't hacked accounts, actually, he create accounts and hack items and then gave it to people. I saw it right now while looking at his page on FB and watching his videos on Youtube. He knows how Teufel works. One of his videos, "Invading clans", he went to Teufel the blue and there was a message. "Next clan Flame Wings". Check it out  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X6Ec3ldmck and put it on 2:45 and see.

Anyway, I am NOT defending him. Thank you so much for deleting his accounts! 

 

Ps. If you want me to talk to him, I know who he is and we speak the same language. It could help a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

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What the-

 

Is that his brand new account? The clan board on the video is the clan board that exists NOW, after they deleted Jacob's clans. Wasn't his clan alongside his viking deleted, like, just a few hours ago? He made a new viking already?

 

Even though Jacob isn't the issue right now, this is ridiculous.

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He has a lot of accounts. Yes, that is ridiculous. He made that video because of Teufel's video. The video description; "Estou vendo muitos modinhas fazendo videos de eles entrando nos clãs do rank então estou aqui pra provar que nao são só eles que sabem fazer isso :) Vamos provar que eu tambem manjo" ; Respectively translation" I've seen many people making videos of them invading the clans, I'm here to proof that they are not the only ones who knows to do that. Let's proof that I also know" 

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More proof that this isn't

More proof that this isn't just a glitch. How many proofs/evidences do we need to throw at the admins to make them understand the situation? Dang.

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Everyone above me already took the words out of my mouth. Still, no disrespect intended, but

 

What in Thor's name are you talking about?!

 

THis was obviously not a bug. I have never heard of a bug in any game that specifically targets a user's account. They had a Timberjack in their acount. Ok...maybe a bug. But others saw the users flying around on the Timberjack, when they were offline! Like others said...I don't think a "bug" can do that. 

 

Please, like many others have asked, shut down the game and switch servers from Unity to a more secure one. I do appreciate that you are trying, I really do. But this situation is almost like cutting weeds: If you only cut the top part off and ignore the rest, it will just grow back, stonger than ever. It will only hideoff once you cut the roots. 

 

Don;t get me wrong, I am really, really happy that the Jacobs have been removed. But I am sure they will return one day, so please, make the game more secure to prevent them from returning. My greatist wish is to see SoD to return to its former state-hacker-free, safe, fun....

 

Thank you, and have a great day.

 

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It's nice to hear something

It's nice to hear something about this.

 

Thank you Brynjolf for taking the time to make this thread, and thank you Siren for responding to our questions.  I'm glad we were able to get an update on what is going on.

 

 

 

But, I still am not sure that the Timberjacks were a glitch. They have shown proof that their accounts had been hacked and dragons had been placed in their accounts. I don't think a glitch would rename dragons and ride around as players.

 

 

I'm just waiting for the time when this game is mostly if not fully protected from hackers, and when everyone can continue playing this game without fear of being hacked.

 

 

Thank you for what you admins have been doing and please keep it up so that the favorite game of so many players is fixed.

 

 

 

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People, you need to

People, you need to understand, if the admins don't have evidence of hacking, then the next logical step is to assume it was a bug. The admins are working with what they can work. As I said before they can't protect you from all forms of hacking.

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This is a subject

We've given evidence to them in earlier posts, yet they refuse to believe it even if we used any logical explainations. I'm still trying to keep my hopes up for them, but that hope is fading slowly.

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But the evidence you can give

But the evidence you can give them is of no use for them, they can't work with it. Admins need to know how or why the hacking happenned to start working on that, if they can work on that. Since they have no information of that kind they are looking at it as a bug.

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Neilandio wrote:

People, you need to understand, if the admins don't have evidence of hacking, then the next logical step is to assume it was a bug. The admins are working with what they can work. As I said before they can't protect you from all forms of hacking.

 

Oooo they don't have evidence of hacking? Are you sure? Because if you search for the words 'hack', 'hacker(s)' and 

'timberhack' , you will see half or more of all of the threads on forum. So, I ask you again, are you sure they don't have evidence? 

Yes, they are working on what they can work. But why so long? Like, six months. Sure, they need time but I think if you are a game creator you need to know about computer, then, probably know how to hack.

No, sure they cannot protect us from all forms of hacking. Sony couldn't protect your site from hackers. But now, being serious, they can protect us from that kind of hacking. This is not professional hacking, contrariwise, this is the easier kind of hacking.

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Hacking timberjacks,

Hacking timberjacks, recoloring dragons, getting toothless, UDT points, trophies, gems and coins is one thing. Hacking into somebody else's account is an entirely different business. They can fix the former and they have confirmed they are in fact working on it, but they have no evidence for the latter. How can they fix it if they don't know how it happenned on the first place? Every hack is different and works differently and you need to know what the hacker did to begin fixing whatever exploit he (or she) used. Since they have no idea how it happenned they are looking for bugs in the timberjack code.

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I am not sure if you are coming out with this nonsense to;

A:  Aggravate us even more

B:  SOD wants to ignore the threats again like always and bury their heads in the ground.

C:  You are just living in Cloud Cukoo Land.

 

Seriously after a week this is what you understood from all these threads?  It was all down to user error?  Let me put this straight for you guys in simple English.  Oh and please feel free to jump me if there is something you do not understand.

 

Admin Quote

"While the user and those who rallied behind him claimed that the leader’s account had been hacked and the clan deleted at the hand of the hacker, we have verified that this was NEVER the case."

 

Firstly, the user "Might Wind Rider" never once said that the hacker deleted the clan.

Might said her account was hacked and someone added a Timberjack to her account.

 

Secondly, Might did remove all clan members and delete everyone from her friends list with our thanks as she was trying to protect us members from the hacker that gained access to our clan as well.

 

Admin Quote

"We believe that the Timberjack is in your account. We believe this due to a bug with the Timberjack in our code. We firmly believe no one is hacking the accounts and placing them in there for you. This is something we are looking to fix and adress in the future, but right now, there should be no concern over having a Timberjack in your account".

 

I guess you still believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy as well.

 

And this bug......................

just randomly hit The Phantom Lords members.....................

and just happened to magically appear after being threatened that member was next..............

and just happened to name the dragons itself............................

and then just happened to fly around on its own while TPL member was offline........................

and then just happened to type nonsense in chat on its own ..................

 

 

Dassigny

Might Wind Rider

Diamond Racer

Artemiaz

and my appoligies to the others I have forgotten to mention here that were also hit

 

Admin Quote

"We have seen the trophy cheaters and adressed that in the post above. So as we already mentioned please give us a few more days to clean up the rest but we already removed 15 users for hacking trophies. The #1 clan is no longer there due to our account deletion".

 

When you have deleted around 1500 then I will start having a little more respect, but if you think we are going to start doing cartwheels over 15 players you are wrong.

 

I'm sorry but do you honestly realise how incompetent and stupid you are making yourselves look right now.  I would be seriously embarrassed to have to come to the forum and deliver that nonsense.  

 

Admin Quote

"While we completely understand the frustration players have voiced regarding certain game hacks with dragons, coins, and trophies, we can assure you that individual player accounts have never been at risk".

 

Its quite plain to see that SOD has no idea how to stop this hacking by the fact you are burying your head in the sand again and pretending nothing happened and accounts were not compromised.

 

I still stand by my statement that SOD is not a safe site, especially for kids without serious supervision.  And I will not allow my children on here or put another dime into this game with all these security issues still present.

 

 

 

 

I hear the next SOD Dragon is called an Ostrich ............. It don't fly or breathe fire, just buries it head in the ground  like the SOD Support Staff and Admin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sleepwalker9 wrote:

 

And this bug......................

just randomly hit The Phantom Lords members.....................

and just happened to magically appear after being threatened that member was next..............

and just happened to name the dragons itself............................

and then just happened to fly around on its own while TPL member was offline........................

and then just happened to type nonsense in chat on its own ..................

 

 

I'm sorry but do you honestly realise how incompetent and stupid you are making yourselves look right now.  I would be seriously embarrassed to have to come to the forum and deliver that nonsense.  

 

Admin Quote

"While we completely understand the frustration players have voiced regarding certain game hacks with dragons, coins, and trophies, we can assure you that individual player accounts have never been at risk".

 

Its quite plain to see that SOD has no idea how to stop this hacking by the fact you are burying your head in the sand again and pretending nothing happened and accounts were not compromised.

 

 

That message has appeared more times I could count;

Siren wrote

We believe that the Timberjack is in your account. We believe this due to a bug with the Timberjack in our code. We firmly believe no one is hacking the accounts and placing them in there for you. This is something we are looking to fix and adress in the future, but right now, there should be no concern over having a Timberjack in your account.

 

And this is to you, Sleepy

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Great job!

 

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1000+ You took the words right out of my mouth.

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Clans

So now,If a bad viking gets into a Clan,the Leader Can't remove them from the Clan.Clans will fall because of this.

Things were just made worst.

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I totally agree 100% Har, all

I totally agree 100% Har, all they are doing is making easier for the hackers.

 

I am also kinda upset that the Timber jack bug didnt effect me as I have always been outspoken against hackers.  LOL

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Good point

Good point about a leader not being able to remove someone who is a bad vikng.  That will help call the clans trying to be hacker-free in the next tournament.  So if someone starts getting huge amounts of trophies wrong or ends up in your clan someway then that clan gets disqualified - since no one can do anything about it.  hmm good plan of action.  Help the hackers/cheaters and hurt the good players so more. 

 

After all they want their prizes too to wear..

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It doesn't make sense. Why

It doesn't make sense. Why make that option if we want our clans to be safe? What if someone is inactive and doesn't play the game anymore and you want to make room for more people? What if someone is just plainly rude to the clan and you can't get rid of them? What good does it do then?

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Tracking post to receive updates on the situation.

Thanks Admins for responding...it's nice to know you're listening to us. :)

EDIT: ...I am really sorry for questioning your integrity, admins. I was angry and was not thinking carefully about what I said. I didn't realize you had been working behind the scenes to take care of the hacker problem, and I apologize that it took proof of that restore my faith in you. I wish you the best of luck combating the hackers, and thank you for remaining dedicated to the players.

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   Brynjolf and SIREN. Please check your in box.  I copied both of you.  The main problem is when someone posts here in forum it's covered under free speech but when it causes several kids to be cyber bullied in private messages and they attempt suicide because of what Artemiaz posted in another thread it becomes a crime.  And now not only can you be hald accountable but now because you have failed to protect these children Dream Works can have a class action lawsuit placed on them.

   And since this hacker Teufel has the information about these kids being cyber bullied and attempting suicide because of what shes posted how are you going to stop that?

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Ok, this is where I explode.

For the love of Thor, are you this dense?!! Why would you trust a freaking hacker like him?! He is spreading lies and you know it!! The cyberbullying is a hoax!! You got it? A HOAX!! He is doing this just to make them look bad! Are you this naive to someone like Teufel?! Also, Artemiaz would never say that to anyone! Plus you're contradicting your motives!

I can't believe you right now! I don't care if I'm being crude! I am just ticked off at you right now! You won't be gaining anyone's trust like this, set your priorities straight, stop listening to false information, and get your crap together!!

 

(Ah, I feel a LOT better after saying that)

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No problem! I was honestly expecting to get called out on for exploding like that. But due to Keke's recent actions, I think he deserved it.

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I have to agree here. Someone like Anonymous has proven we can trust him, and has apologized for his past actions. Someone like Teufel cannot be trusted. To say that the leader of the best clan could be mean to someone, yes, I could believe it (I don't, but I could). But for them to state that Might Wind Rider was cyberbullying them to the point of them attempting suicide? Absurd. How would he even get the information that multiple people were bullied into trying to commit suicide exactly? Teufel's lying.

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Agreed. Anonymous is the only hacker that can be trusted, he apologized for his past actions and is using his hacking to help players. While Teufel is just making lies about innocent players. It just sickens me, I hope the Admins do something about Teufel's account, he's just causing damage to the community.

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Excuse me. I am not

Excuse me. I am not responsible for the content of private messages written by other players.

 

This is the 'controversial thread' in question that has sparked these claims of attempted suicide

:http://forum.schoolofdragons.com/content/petition-remove-our-clan-crests-dragon-dream-teams-banner

 

And here are the messages that followed between myself and kekedaddy following this thread:

 

Participants: kekedaddy and Artemiaz

 
01/16/2015 - 02:01

Please ask administration to remove your thread.  This was just an idea or a way for all of us to work together in a fan based tournament.

  A way for us to come and work together instead of us fighting with one another.  Its just and idea, now <<NAME CENSORED>> is being cyber bullied by Storm and she breaking down emotionally. SHES JUST A FREKING KID ART!!!

    I've seen the messages Storm has sent to her and she actually had the balls to ride her about not being active in the last tournament even though you guys won.

   Shes a little freking girl that had school work and exams!!!  TAKE THAT THREAD DOWN PLEASE THAT BANNER WAS JUST AN IDEA BEING THROWN AROUND< not yelling just trying to get your attention. Thank you

 

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01/16/2015 - 02:32
 
I am a firm advocate against censorship. I will never altar or retract my words, and I believe exposure to differing opinions is essential to prevent the spreading of ignorance. So no, I won't be removing the thread. Report it if you wish- or better still, create a petition of your own and voice your concerns, as you stated in your comment. 
 

The purpose of the thread was not to attack the Dream Team's aims- I gave everybody on the forum the link to Gyoa's thread where they can read both sides of the moral arguments surrounding the issue. This newest thread is about respect for clan leaders' choices, and preventing misappropriation of clan materials. I respectfully asked Skyphonenix if he would remove Diamond Storm's crest and he did not respond. Other leaders had the same problem. I have since seen the current version of the banner used publicly on the forum; that is a public misrepresentation of our clan crest which deserves a public response. If you wished to avoid backlash, the better solution would have been to consult clan leaders before sending out copies of the banner. 

 

I fail to see how a dispute between <<NAME CENSORED>> and Storm is at all relevant to this. 

 

 

 
01/16/2015 - 02:42

     Because this little girl is being bullied over this idea. Thats why. And now I just received another message that she was even suicidal at one point when a hacker got into her clan and shes going to that dark place again over this. Her friend did it and she was thinking of going with her.

   I am trying to find ways for all of us to get along and not fight in this drama here in the forum. This is a game thats supposed to be educational and fun.  A game.  But when you start hurting inocent people its no longer a game!! Please help me stop this fighting in the forum. Please?

 

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01/16/2015 - 03:00

Anybody who voices an opinion about something will inevitably hurt somebody else in the world emotionally. That does not put the people who speak up at fault- it's a fact of life of being human and having different points of view. I wish <<NAME CENSORED>> did not feel the way she does, but her feelings do not invalidate the basis on which I made that thread.

 

Those who were involved in the creation of that banner were and remain at fault until the offending clan crests are removed. I will not report the thread to the admins. You are welcome to do so, or create a new thread of your own voicing your opposing opinion. 

 

In addition, making an accusation of cyberbullying is a serious issue and deserves an appropriate response. Report it to the admins with the evidence.

 

 

 
01/16/2015 - 03:30

Actually your right Art. What you say shouldn't bother people. Just like it doesn't bother me to stand up against Storm.

   I can take the heat. but some people cant.  All your doing is adding more fuel to the fire. Eventually someone gets burned.  This was just a Fan Based idea, a way for all of us to try to get along. Thats it.

  Personally I'd like to know how you got a hold of it.

 

 

Yes, my response in regards to the mental health issues of the player in question was cold, but that was not the issue at stake. Quite frankly you had no buisiness bringing me into an argument between Storm and yourself and this other player. 

 

I apologise sincerely to the indvidual related to this post for dragging this into the public view, but I will not be slandered and accused of driving somebody to suicide. 

 

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Does anyone else find it

Does anyone else find it strange that kekedaddy goes on a moral stand for cyber bullying against a few select people. And when he doesn't get the outcome he was after, coincidently those select people have their accounts hacked?

Am I the only one who is interested in seeing some screenshots of the messages he has received from this hacker? Proof of the information he is sharing?

 

Just saying, seems a bit dodgy.

 

Good on you for airing your proof Artemiaz. 

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