HTTYD and HTTYD2 (spoilers, funny, interesting)

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So in HTTYD we have Hiccup and Astrid riding on Toothless in the scene called Romantic flight. Well that scene reminded me SO much of Aladdin when he and Jasmine were on the magic carpet singing A Whole New World. Am I the only one that thought of that?

Now lets talk about the Night Fury. So the Vikings have heard about the Night Fury but little was known about them except that they destroy things and never miss.
In the book of dragons there was not a drawing of a Night Fury so how did Gobber know what a Night Fury looked like when Toothless showed up in the arena to save Hiccup? Could be from a friend. But why not mention it in the Book of Dragons? Every detail matters!
In HTTYD 2 when Hiccup, Astrid, Toothless, and Stormfly went to investigate some smoke and saw a lot of ice (the place is called Itchy Armpit if you don't remember) anyway when Stormfly got captured, Toothless flew over and made that strange sound (I guess you can say roar?) and Eret, I think that was his name, said, "Is that what I think it is?" he's seen and heard a Night Fury before! :O how else can you describe a roar like THAT?
And Drago, he was not surprised to see Toothless at all. Even if someone had told him Hiccup rides a Night Fury he wouldn't be all that surprised. And of course we have Valka, "I have never seen one this close up before" everyone freaked out about that. But not about Eret or Drago.
What are your thoughts? You can also include the tv series if you wish. I may have missed something. But PLEASE say spoilers because some people have not seen the series yet (I have)
Please don't mention HTTYD 3. I'm mad that I have to wait two years for it to come out lol

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Yup, the first thing I thought of during the Romantic Flight scene was "A Whole New World." It's the reason I was rolling my eyes through the whole thing. Astrid didn't really win me back over from that until the docks scene.

 

It's funny you mentioned the Book of Dragons in the first film because there actually was no Book of Dragons there. The Book of Dragons was actually called the Dragon Manual in the first film. I have no idea why it was changed when the Book of Dragons short was released. I guess it sounded catchier? Ack, I wish this franchise could just stick to things once it establishes them. It never seems to do that. In fact, their tendency to change things on a whim is one of the many reasons I'm not particularly a fan of the show.

 

Gobber, Eret, and Drago knew Toothless was a Night Fury because he made the signature Night Fury sound each time right before he saw them. That sound was how the villagers always knew Night Fury was coming at the beginning of the first film. Everyone knows what a Night Fury sounds like; it's the looks that were a mystery. And since they're not from the Archipelago, it's possible Eret and Drago have seen one before; after all, Valka claimed she has, though never up close, and Drago's dragon skin cloak is black, which may suggest it could be Night Fury skin...though probably not, admittedly the scales on that don't look very Night Fury-esque. They're big and bumpy, unlike Toothless' small, sleek scales.

 

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Hmmm

I couldn't exactly remember what the book was called in the first flim. All I remember was it was a book about dragons lol I am sorry about that. But if Gobber caught a glimpse of it or the villagers they should have put it in the Dragon Manuel. Yes, he's fast, but you can always see the wings and the body. The scrawny two legged Viking Hiccup saw him perfectly. He did take Toothless down easily because he could make out the outline of Toothless.
And Drago dragon skin I always figured out was not a Night Fury. It has to be from a dragon that was pure black, long wings, and bumpy. What kind of dragon do you think that was? Maybe a Sand Wraith? They are longer than Toothless and a bit bumpy. Let me know what you think about that :)
I just really think Eret and Drago saw one. Who knows maybe Drago killed a lot of them. Eret was surprised because I'm sure he thought Drago killed them all or other Dragon Hunters did. It is all very interesting.

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I don't think it's a Sand Wraith. It's a black dragon. The only known black dragons in the franchise are the Night Fury, Night Terror, and Devlish Dervish, and I doubt it's any of those. So I think it's a dragon we've never heard of before. Either that or Drago died the cloak to make it black.

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Next up, I noticed the tuning with dragon and eret, but not with Gobber for some reason, but I see it now.

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Thank you!!! XD

Yeah I don't think a lot of people ever thought of Gobber. Just a theory :)

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I have another theory. I may get a lot of no and what the heck are you talking about but has anyone noticed in RTTE how Ryker and Viggo kind of favor Drago? Not to mention Viggo name sounds like Drago... In other words were those Drago sons? It would make sense why he went even more crazy. Just a theory people!! Those two characters were never mentioned in the movie but those two characters were introduced the next year or something like that. Just a theory people. I'm probably 100% wrong. I may have missed something in the second movie.

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I thought of that.

Toothless'sound.

I think that the dragon trappers hunted the night fury specifically. Both Drago and Eret seemed to recognize Toothless. (Could also be the sound though.) And Drago's cape is black Dragon skin.

Um, Astrid told him that Hiccup rode a night​fury.

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Boo by ShiroKageFox^^
 
Ace and Onyx by xXSilver.Night Xx^^
 
And while we're on the subject... here's how they met!
 

One blue and gold wyvern, a young girl with blazing red hair, and another older girl with a mess of black on her head. Nearby some sheep watched in half-hearted interest and in the distant background several tall wooden buildings were swarmed with a rainbow of different dragons of all ages and breeds. The School of Dragons.

“Now remember, let the dragon fly herself”

“Got it”

“And don’t yank back on the horns too hard”

“Knew that”

“And don’t put your foot there”

“What?”

Aunrey looked at where Jurada, her instructor, was pointing. Her heel was wedged in the Monstrous Nightmares armpit, which wouldn’t have been a problem except for the fact that she would be trying to get airborne in the next minute. “Oh, right” Aunrey apologized.

Jurada smiled confidently at her. The girl looked about 19, maybe 20, and had a maniacs’ glint behind her joyful eyes. Her thick black hair enhanced that look, and it didn’t help that her outfit was a weird combination of red-stained leather and fabrics matched with light armouring made from a very, very dark metal of some sort. “Alright, then- Ace, you said your name was?”

“Yep”

“Let’s see if you can get along with Nyemeri. Onwards!”

Nyemeri, the dragon, launched into the sky with a jolt. Aunrey was almost thrown off (again) but managed to grasp her lower horns.

This turned out to be a terrible idea because instead of throwing the dragons whole head back, it just pulled her jaws open to make a gout of sticky flames shoot out in surprise. Nyemeri tucked in her wings, rolled to one side, and made a nose dive for the ocean. Neither Aunrey or Jurada had time to protest to those manoeuvres and all three were now floating in the waves.

“Nyemeri, what in the name of Odin’s eyepatch was that!” Jurada cursed loudly.

The dragon started paddling back to shore, clearly done with todays lessons. Muttering a few more severe informalities under her breath, Jurada grabbed a shell-shocked Aunrey and followed Nyemeri.

“I think we’re done with flying practice for today” Jurada puffed. “You should get up to the Hatchery before the rare ones go” she suggested.

Aunrey clutched her arm. It stung badly, as did a lot of the rest of her body, but there were no marks or burns. “I guess” she agreed.

 

No more than an hour later, she had managed to reach the magmatic hearth of the Hatchery(and the heat dried her off, which was a plus). Left and right, other students made b-lines for different nests and others made round trips a few times before settling on their first dragon.

Not Aunrey, though. She just stood there.

“Just give it a moment” a boy said to her at some point. “You’ll feel what’s right for you”

And she gave it plenty of moments. Enough moments for even the Whispering Death’s nest to clear out. The mother happily lay curled around the empty ditch, just like the rest of them.

Maybe come back tomorrow?’ Aunrey thought to herself, but even she was having a hard time keeping her spirits up. For now, she would just have to find something else to do. Exploring the islands would have to do for a distraction for now.

It was a weird sensation. Aunrey normally was in a constant state of optimism, but the type of sadness or disappointment in her right now was almost nothingness. A sort of emptiness in her chest, as if the ‘happy-go-lucky’ carelessness was now just ‘go’. Go somewhere and do nothing.

The Lookout was pretty boring. A plot of land was for sale but she had no coin. Groups of students took turns gazing through a telescope fixed to an outcropping but there wasn’t much on the horizon to get a better look at.

The Training Grounds had some more promise- the racing tower stood proudly on its own rocky cape, its height outmatched only by the Flight Club platform. Arena’s built into caves either side of the entrance added another layer to the cove but Fireball was strictly experienced trainers only and ‘Bullseye Lagoon’ had a faded ‘Closed’ sign nailed to its door. Aunrey couldn’t wait until she could explore the place properly with her own dragon- something that she was slowly fearing would never happen.

This only left the Wilderness to wander through, the only forested part of the island. It was where most of the Hatcheries eggs came from, according to Jurada, so it wasn’t unheard of for a student to go in there with just the one scaled companion and leave with two.

It was reassuringly quiet here. No other students. Any dragons that saw her turned tail and left silently. It was a good place to reset, and by now the sun was touching the horizon, adding to the serene environment.

In the distant forest, a pillar of black smoke billowed from the trees. Some boars burst out of the undergrowth, squealing and paying no mind to her in their blind fear. These were sure sounds of an injured or angry dragon- just the kind of thing she was looking for.

Racing towards the smoke, she grinned to herself as she pondered what could be the owner of the smoke. Smokebreath? Stormcutter? Hotburple? At this point any kind of dragon would be fine for her. She reached the place that the smoke was coming from, and found a patch of forest stripped bare by flames and gales. The ground was still warm- coals embedded in the tree trunks still glowed rather brightly. The tops of the trees melted into the dusk sky.

Then a beam of sunlight pulled itself from the rest.

She watched in awe as a dragon with fiery wings materialize out of the dusk sky, landing heavily on the other side of the field to her. They locked eyes, and Aunrey felt the connection. A Typhoomerang with eyes of light bronze, a face like white ash and a body made of fire, stood regal and proud. He was a powerful beast, but not without intelligence or kindness. Pale striping in his scarlet belly reminded her of the onyx geodes brought back from trading vessels, smoothed and buffed into shining stones as bright as his scales.

The dragon took a step towards her, growling. She wasn’t scared, however. And he didn’t seem defensive, either, growling more out of a test than to frighten her. He stopped rumbling and his pupils widened, taking another step forward. Their noses were almost touching. “Hi there” Aunrey whispered.

He sniffed her head, and made a strange gurgling noise. “Would you want to come with me?” she asked, hopeful.

It was a long shot, but there was no way she would leave this majestic dragon behind without even trying.

He slow-blinked, considering the offer. After a moment, he nuzzled her forehead, gurgling again. “You want a name?” she asked her new dragon, who was very quickly warming up to her. “What about Onyx?” she suggested, remembering the small stones again.

Onyx didn’t exactly object to his name, if anything humming even louder. She laughed, stroking his nose and horns, finally with her dragon.

Written by the AMAZING Wutend Bonfire^^ TYSM! 

 
 
Meet Snowbelle! She's Wolf's crush! 
By Fen Brekkie^^
 
More Snowbelle art! 
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Wolf and Snowbelle by Snowflake12298^^
My sister, Lex and her Dragon Camaczi by Boombox74^^
 
Lex Lenox by Starke Raving Madmen^^
 
 
And Camacazi, also by Starke Raving Madmen^^
My Razorwhips, Blitz (Male, copper) and Iceshard(Female, silver) by Snowflake12298^^
 
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                              Adoptables
 
 
Sniper
 
 
 
Species: Skyworm
 
Species first discovered by: Chameisida
 
Gender: Male
 
Background:  
  I met Sniper on an island far south of Berk.

My dragon, Polaris, spotted him first, he was high above the island, as if scouting out his next move.


As we   approached the dragon he attacked. He hit Polaris, barely, but it was still clear that Polaris was in excruciating pain.

We crashed into the island below, Sniper was quick to follow.

I tried to tend to my dragon, but Sniper came bursting through the trees, wanting to finish what he'd started.
I dodged a few attacks but he had me cornered.
"Stop!" I yelled as he readied the final blow.
This interested him. A human, who can speak with dragons?
"How can you do that?" He asked in a gruff voice.
"I learned your language, I live alone in an island will with dragons for half of the year." I answered.
"Show me the island." He demanded.

"I can't, my dragon is injured."

"Then care for him, then you will show me the island."
I tended to Polaris most of the night, amidst talking to Sniper.
The next morning woke up to see Sniper guarding us. He hadn't killed us!
Polaris was well enough to fly now and we began the flight back to Vivvore.
Once there Sniper was welcomed with open wings. It was there he realized that I had befriended all these dragons and I keep them safe.
I named him Sniper and offered him a place at Vivvore. He agreed.

He remains aggressive, but a bit less. Now he happily lives as the head of defense at Vivvore.

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In the first movie the only dragons were,

Nadder

Gronckle

Zippleback

Mountrous Nightmare

Nightfury

Skrill

ChangeWing

Scauldron 

Tunderdrum

Whispering Death

TimberJack

((Later the shirt was released but we'll get to that later) I know the scauldron is one because in the scene where Hiccup  is reading the book outloud he says;F

"Burns it's victims, scaulds it's victims, turns it's  victims inside out..."i

What other dragon can "sauld it's victims"? I digress, the villagers of Berk never sought to discover dragons at first, only to kill them. Gobber, sees this completely black dragon he's never scene before, Nightfury being the only currently unknown dragon is the lgical assumption. Also, as people pointed out, Toothless DID make his signature sound.

 

Now, not to shoot down your their, but Viggo and Ryker are NOT Drago's sons. They appear to be in their 30s, Drago, is probably in his 40s. The timeline doesn't work out. BUT you are onto something. 

This is the symbol painted on Dragon Hnter ships...

 It is a red fist. What else is red? Blood? It's a blood fist... Bludvist... As in Drago Bludvist. So, it's common knowledge that the dragon hunters ARE connected to Drago. Not in the way you thought though.

 

 

The next matter to adress.Drago isn't from Berk. Berk is a cold climate, biologically, if you live in a cooler climate, you have pale skin. Well, Drago doesn't. He has a tan, sunburned look.

Drago is NOT from anywhere near beberk. This statement is supported by Stoick's Quote.

"When a strange man from a strange place..."

Due to the tan skin color, I would put Drago's orgins in a warm climate. It is a known fact that NightFuries also originate from warmer places (which explains why Berk hasn't seen another NF). So, it is very much possible for Drago to have seen another Nightfury. And his cloak could be made of very old NF scales. Eret, seemed surprised to see Toothless. But, not in a 'i haven't see you in these parts' type of surprised.

"It can't be." Is all he said. I THINK that the dragon hunters have hunted NightFuries to extinction in the southern climates where they came from. This surprised to see in totally out of his habitat.

 

 

Then there is Valka. She HAS seen another Nightfury. She's been gone for 20 years, truth be told, she could of done anything in that time period, even... Say fly south? In the scene with Hiccup and the snow, Hiccup is drawing a map of all of his charted land. Valka draws a larger map, including lands hiccup has never seen before. So we know she has been exploring.

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Lynx is rather bold and loud She is like Luna Lovegood in the sense that she is rather... odd. Loud, shameless and weird. She is more animal like than human. Lynx enjoys being flashy, showing off her skills. Once she sets her mind to something, she is natrually good at it. The problem is that she loses focus easy and doesn't like setting herself to standards. She craves adventure and can grow bored easily. She is particularly fast on her feet, but has low stamina levels. She is strong and tall for her age. Lynx is stubborn and laid-back most of the time. She does not like to follow orders. Some of her skills include: being double jointed, the ability of being able to climb almost any surface, very good at mimicking animal sounds and is EXTREMELY good at sneaking around. However, there is a side to Lynx that she does not show very often. She is very lazy and selfish at times, mainly because she lacks compassion twords humankind, caring more about dragons and animals more so than humans. This tendency causes her to be merciless in the face of battle.

 

 

 

 

 

Wolf

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Wolf is my in-game character. Her full name is 'Wolf and Star'. She takes on my own personality, which is quite similar to that of Lynx. During quests Wolf loves to muck around and try to break the system by utilizing glitches- just for laughs, but she always produces reliable results. She is a fair viking and  she never uses glitches for her own personal gain. Some of my profile info will be listed below:.............

 

In Game Name:  Wolf and Star..............

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........Lyra

 Art done by xXSadieKaneXx

Lyra is very concealed and secretive. She rarely shows emotion and looks down on those who do. She is insanely obervative and could possibly rub off as edgy. Lyra can be rudely scarcastic, and may accidently hurt you. Don't expect remorse.  Though in fights, she doesn't appear to have a sense of honor and isn't afraid to fight dirty. She WILL kill. Lyra is willing to do anything to ensure her well being, and the well being of her mother. Which could be a weakness. she values her self preservation. She doesn't talk much either. She usually has her hood masking her pale delicate face and long hair 

 

 

 

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Actually, there were 15

Actually, there were 15 confirmed dragon species in the first movie. (I've been known to call them the "Original 15.") They are:

 

Deadly Nadder

Gronckle

Hideous Zippleback

Monstrous Nightmare

Night Fury

Thunderdrum

Timberjack

Scauldron

Changewing

Skrill

Boneknapper

Whispering Death

Snaptrapper

Terrible Terror

Red Death

 

The Nadder, Gronckle, Zippleback, Nightmare, and Night Fury are introduced in the intro; the Terrible Terror is introduced in one of the lessons; the Thunderdrum, Timberjack, Scauldron, Changewing, Skrill, Boneknapper, and Whispering Death are mentioned by Hiccup by name in the Dragon Manual scene and shown in pictures; the Snaptrapper's picture appears in the Dragon Manual scene; and of course, the Red Death ends up being the Big Bad of the movie's third act. The only ones whose names aren't outright mentioned are the Snaptrapper and Red Death, but all of them are there.

 

These are the original dragons, though some only made it into the film for about 30 seconds by way of a name drop and a page flip. Later, they all featured in the Book of Dragons short (though the Red Death was only featured in a drawing in the beginning of the short).

 

There's also some pictures that look suspiciously like they could be a Flightmare and a Speed Stinger in the Dragon Manual scene, and the fandom has long since pointed out the dragon hanging in the Great Hall looks like a Grapple Grounder. While not canon at the time of the film's release, it's possible these drawings and designs were used for inspiration for these TV show dragons and this game dragon, making them now part of the collection of species briefly seen in the film. That would bump the movie's quota up to 18 dragon species. Hard to say for sure, though. All we know for sure is that the Original 15 were the only named and fleshed-out species at the time of the film's release.

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I Know I didn't mention​a few f these dragons, but, I didn't feel like listing them all. X3 

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The Night Furies' history

Wolf and Star wrote:

It is a known fact that NightFuries also originate from warmer places (which explains why Berk hasn't seen another NF).

 

Whoa, I don't remember hearing that before! Can you tell me where you got this information and whether it is credible? I'm really curious about this now, because I hadn't thought there were any clues as to where the Night Furies used to live.

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Critical thinker; artistic; patient; obsessive over things he loves; absent-minded

Expansions completed:

Icestorm quest Deathsong quest  Battle quest  Rtdi icon  Tsol icon 2 

 

Sparkflare

Female, age 50

Found on Dragon Island July 18, 2013

Cheerful; ferocious in battle; easily distracted; excitable; reckless flyer

 

Streamglide

Male, age 3!

Rescued from hunters July 23, 2016

Caring & comforting; rescues other dragons; brave; stealthy; nimble

 

Globstract                                  Flingshot  

Female, age 2 ¾                              Male, age 12    

Level 30                                       Level 29

Adopted Nov 11, 2016                 Bonded Feb 12, 2017 

      Reclusive; disobedient;                     Sociable; co-operative; curious;

showy; artistic; cheeky                            lively; protective of me

 

 

Gargle

Age 15

Persistent & focused; mature; outgoing; confident; short-tempered

 

Bulkshield

Male, age 3

Hatched Jan 1, 2015

Friendly; stubborn & determined; moody; relies on brute strength; heroic

 

Brightslime

Female, baby

Level 8

Adopted June 11, 2017

Adventurous, likeable, observant, has quick reflexes, poisonous

 

 

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2. Streamglide -  1088

3. Sparkflare    -  1026

4. Bulkshield    -    859

5. Flingshot      -    573