getting rid of gems

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i think we can all agree that gems are a bad system the rich get to have everything and the poor get nothing if the devs want to keep the gem system then make it easier to get gems such as  put gems in quests maybe every five quests you get ten gems that way pepole arent overpowerd with fiftey dragons at level 2 but arent at level 32 with one gronckle this way pepole would have no reason to hack the game or at least reduce the number of hackers no one likes a unfair game no one wants to have to play to win   if you support this comment #DownWithGems


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Its actually pretty easy to

Its actually pretty easy to get gems. There are stable quests that give gems (Construction zone is prob the best since it appears every other mission for its slot, and boulder dragons work the best). Also the battle events every two hours u get a chance to win gems. And daily rewards also give u gems on the third and fifth day.

Without gems there would be less paying players which means less income for the company which means less improvements and updates and bug fixes.


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i agree

yes stable quests are a good sourse of gem income but without another dragon new players cant do them untill the whispering death quest with dosent show up untill your around level 20 battle events only give you a chance to get gems if you get a reward at all and daily rewrd only give you 25 and 15 i think witch means for another dragon you would have to wait 18 weeks witch is not an option for impatient players like me and if there was no gem system more players would play less would hack more players would mean more pepole to pay money for coins or gems

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Well, the way I see it, you have two choices; either a Gem system, or a very limited Non-member/Member system.


The limited Non-member/Member system is where in order for you to access certain places and do certain things, you would need to be a member in order to do so. An example would be Club Penguin, where you can't even buy decent clothing unless you're a member.


It may seem unfair, but that's the world we live in. Knowledge Adventure needs money to pay for the servers that run the game. They also have to pay the employees, whether or not they did anything, and they have to pay for the building they are in, as they are a company, and they need a place for people to work. Sadly, without money, this game wouldn't exist.


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if the gem system was removed all gem items would be coins so the system would be the pretty much the same  rich pepole buy coins and the poor pepole do quests but without the gems poor pepole get dragons too 

and pepole who spent a lot of money for gems would get coins so 100 gems is 10000 coins prices for items would change too so its still hard to get dragons but possible

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Why would anyone bother buying coins? Almost everything gives you coins. If they switched it to coins then they would have to remove most of the ways to get the coins in order for people to be pushed to buy them. They'd just become the same thing the gems are only EVERYTHING would cost them. 

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if the gem system was removed all gem items would be coins so the system would be the pretty much the same  rich pepole buy coins and the poor pepole do quests but without the gems poor pepole get dragons too 

and pepole who spent a lot of money for gems would get coins so 100 gems is 10000 coins prices for items would change too so its still hard to get dragons but possible

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if the gem system was removed all gem items would be coins so the system would be the pretty much the same  rich pepole buy coins and the poor pepole do quests but without the gems poor pepole get dragons too 

and pepole who spent a lot of money for gems would get coins so 100 gems is 10000 coins prices for items would change too so its still hard to get dragons but possible

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Actually getting gems is alot easier than it used to be. When I first started playing in November 2014 the only free way to get gems was daily bonuses and completing offers/watching videos. Now you can do battles and maybe get gems as reward and do stable quests. Gronkles are available for coins once you reach a certain UDT number. They are rather cheap. If you have 3 gronkles you get 100% success rate on the Construction Zone stable quest. After that is completed all you have to do is trash the eel one that comes up and then send them out on the Construction Zone quest again. There's also a gem box in the mystery stable that gives you 300 gems. Granted, you have to buy the stable first but you get the gems back that you spent on it. You can only open the gem box once per viking account no matter how many mystery stables you have. I know for new players it is a bit tough to get started collecting gems but with h.ard work and determination you can do it. The game has to have a way to make money and they do this by selling gem packages, game cards, and memberships.


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I agree with most of you. I

I agree with most of you. I think this game is very fair and reasonable as far as how you can get gems and also the $/gem ratio. My comparison is the other HTTYD game - ROB. I do play this game as well, but am constantly having to send real money on it to advance in any sort of timely fashion. Instead, in SOD I haven't had to buy gems since last Christmas. I actually bought some a few times anyway, just to be supportive.

The stable quests are the way to go. At worst, you would get 10 gems every 2 hours, approx (including time discarding the eel quest). 25 gems seems to be more typical. All you need is 3 boulder class dragons. You get a free Whispering Death eventually, you can pick a gronckle as a starter, you can get a gronckle for coins and I think the Snafflefang? is available for coins. You just need to work a little and save up.


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But it's pretty easy to get

But it's pretty easy to get gems. As people here have said, stable quest, daily rewards etc. If gems are taken out then everything is easy to get, no one pays real money, and the game dies from lack of funding within a few months. I think having a little patience for stable quests and logging on once a day is the best option for you, keep in mind the game developers don't owe you anything if you aren't paying anything for their services. Honestly, the fact that we can play the game for free with basically no drawbacks is very generous.

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Make way for the ex-economics student

Let’s do this sensibly.

Coins are an accessible, cheap mean of trade in the game. Nearly everything you do gives the reward of coins.

Gems are a premium currency. It’s like comparing USD to Monopoly money; one has a lot of worth, the other is literally a toy. They can only be achieved through dedication; stable quests, logging in consecutive days, battles, etc. There are actually more ways to earn gems than earn coins, but they are given in smaller amounts.

If you want to get them quicker, then you can do small tasks like the ad offers or buy them with real money- this generates income for Jumpstart both ways. By advertising for others, they get paid. By you purchasing them in bulk, they get paid.

Now remove gems entirely from the game. They now don’t exist. Instantly, the value of coins plummet. According to the game, 1 gem=10 coins, but removing gems would push it up dramatically. For the sake of simplicity, let’s estimate that increase to be double, making a gem worth 20 coins. Now things that cost gems i.e. dragon eggs, would be selling at several thousand to tens of thousands.

If you play mini games constantly for an hour each day such as alchemy swap, you could earn up to a thousand each day. Now imagine if you were saving up for a Stormcutter, 800 non-member. That’s 8'000 coins with gems in the game, but 16’000 without. It would take over a fortnight to save up for that, excluding the cost of bait for fishing, animal feed, crop seeds and whatever else you might buy while playing. It would be taxing and unrealistic to expect children to dedicate that much time to the game.

Now back to the financial impacts. Presuming they don’t put up coins to buy in replacement to gems, they have already lost one major income source. Say they kept the advertisement but it didn’t reward you, the income from that would drop as well. Now since Jumpstart makes several games, it probably wouldn’t affect the entire company dramatically, but in the SoD department, there would be anarchy.

They would likely start losing money, or at the least have to reduce the pay given to the staff. Production and progress on the game would grind to a halt, it wouldn’t go anywhere and eventually they would have to either pause the game, or close it down.

That was a worst-case-outcome.



Something that could be done to ease the unbalance between members and non-members, gem prices could reduce by a small margin. Basic things like farm decorations could all be switched over to coins. Low-performing or unpopular dragon eggs could have a reduced price, say taking half of the 500 gem dragons down to 400 or 300. Give better ways of earning gems, like more gem rewards for stable quests.


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What are you even talking about? What are you basing your statement on? How do the 'rich' have a benefit over the 'poor'? Please explain because I don't really see it. I'm not a member or anything, and I can accumulate enough gems for the things I want.


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I agree with Varku. I can't

I agree with Varku.

I can't see why people love to complain about gems. They are so easy to come by. You can farm the bottom left stable quest, farm with fake emails, or just watch 15 second vids over and over again, not to mention battle chests and the daily prize. YOU CAN GET LIKE 200 GEMS A DAY IF YOU FARM THE QUEST AND DO A FEW BATTLES! That is what i did to get gems. And if this is not generous, i don't know what is.



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But we’re not bad people. We’re like our emblem, the snake: sleek, powerful, and frequently misunderstood.

For instance, we Slytherins look after our own – which is more than you can say for Ravenclaw. Apart from being the biggest bunch of swots you ever met, Ravenclaws are famous for clambering over each other to get good marks, whereas we Slytherins are brothers. The corridors of Hogwarts can throw up surprises for the unwary, and you’ll be glad you’ve got the Serpents on your side as you move around the school. As far as we’re concerned, once you’ve become a snake, you’re one of ours – one of the elite.

Because you know what Salazar Slytherin looked for in his chosen students? The seeds of greatness.You’ve been chosen by this house because you’ve got the potential to be great, in the true sense of the word. All right, you might see a couple of people hanging around the common room whom you might not think are destined for anything special. Well, keep that to yourself. If the Sorting Hat put them in here, there’s something great about them, and don’t you forget it.

And talking of people who aren’t destined for greatness, I haven’t mentioned the Gryffindors. Now, a lot of people say that Slytherins and Gryffindors represent two sides of the same coin. Personally, I think Gryffindors are nothing more than wannabe Slytherins. Mind you, some people say that Salazar Slytherin and Godric Gryffindor prized the same kinds of students, so perhaps we are more similar than we like to think. But that doesn’t mean that we cosy up with Gryffindors. They like beating us only slightly less than we like beating them.

A few more things you might need to know: our house ghost is the Bloody Baron. If you get on the right side of him he’ll sometimes agree to frighten people for you. Just don’t ask him how he got bloodstained; he doesn’t like it.

The password to the common room changes every fortnight. Keep an eye on the noticeboard. Never bring anyone from another house into our common room or tell them our password. No outsider has entered it for more than seven centuries.

Well, I think that’s all for now. I’m sure you’ll like our dormitories. We sleep in ancient four-posters with green silk hangings, and bedspreads embroidered with silver thread. Medieval tapestries depicting the adventures of famous Slytherins cover the walls, and silver lanterns hang from the ceilings. You’ll sleep well; it’s very soothing, listening to the lake water lapping against the windows at night.

By J.K. Rowling

See? Slytherin has always been the elite


To Gryffindors:

Your time is coming to an end, Slytherin will trump you! Get your wands ready, because we are coming!


God will be back, that is when we will be judged by the Lord. Be ready, for there will not be any forgiveness this time. The pure and just will be given eternal life, and those who sin will suffer from eternal punishment.

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