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The developers need to stop worrying about hackers and focous more on gameplay. I've been playing this game for years and it is deffinitly what I would call an unfinished game. It's super buggy, and the developers are over here worrying about hackers! When you have a game as BROKEN as this one is, hackers should be the LEAST of your concerns.... Im sure all the devs. care about is money at this point but still! Have some pride in your work. It just makes me kinda sad. It has so much potential if only they stopped cutting corners..

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I totally agree; It's been at least a month now, I still have two eggs I really want to hatch, and I've even PMed a moderator as well as posted on the forums about it. I can't hatch them! The tutorial won't leave! Two updates, but they can't fix my one small glitch... I hate to say, I'm getting really salty about it. I love Stormcutters, but can't get one!

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I agree and disagree this. Glitches definitely need to be given priority, especially ones that are gamebreaking and the dozens of new ones that come with every major update. I'm experiencing several problems right now that started with the release of the latest major update and I'd love for them to be fixed. However, they can't completely forget about hackers. Hackers mess with the game's code which could result in even more problems. The ones who hack gems, eggs, and other items are cutting into the the game's profit. The ones who hack in racing undermine the hard work of those of us who race honestly. While more attention definitely needs to be given to fixing glitches and bugs, hackers should not be overlooked and allowed to do whatever they want.

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You dont really mess with a games code by hacking free gems and such. It doesn't really affect the whole game too much. And yes while these things are important, what about the actual abysmal modeling of the enviroment (there are multiple places in the hidden world where there are "holes" in the floor where they forgot to make sure the floor ines up with the walls and such.) the low-effort game coding which screws over many players on the regular, the censored out-for-money attitude, should I go on? I've seen games get developed, and even most free to play games with microtransactions (like this one) are more well thought out and developed. This game has the quality of a browser game and it has the audacity to ask people to pay a monthly subscription? Its basically taking advantage of its target audiance not haveing any other better how to train your dragon games to go to and so it produces low-effort content because of this. I know we all like the game, but personally I can't get past how much of a scam this game is being. 

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Regardless of whether or not hackers mess with the game's code, hacking is dishonest, and in the case of Toothless, the Light Fury, gems, and store items, it's stealing. Hackers should not be allowed to get away with what they're doing. Part of the SoD team should definitely focus on finding and banning hackers.

 

I agree that more emphasis should be placed on fixing things but the devs aren't to blame. They have bosses who tell them what to do and if they don't listen then they're fired. Will there ever be improvement in this area? Who knows. So it's basically accept the game the way it is, knowing it can take months to fix things and that it's likely some things will never be fixed at all, or don't play it. It's unfortunate but that's just the way it is and a choice each person has to make.

 

To add to the conversation I saw down below, this game isn't pay to play at all. I've seen that claim so many times since I joined the forum that if I had a dime for every time I heard it I'd be rich. The fact is you can get really far in this game without paying a cent. I've seen multiple people on the forum state that they've never spent a cent on this game and yet they have every dragon nonmembers can get, all the expansions, a nice selection of clothes for their viking, saddles for their dragons, and farm and hideout decorations. It's not hard to earn gems on this game if you have patience and put in the time and effort to earn them. Yes, it takes time to get things without paying but it can be done. SoD doesn't have to give us ways to earn gems. They could very well be like other games I've heard of that make you pay to progress. People should be grateful that we can get gems without paying for them.

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SoD has the quality of a browser game because it is a browser game. The only reason it's no longer playable in browsers is due to the fact that most browsers dropped support for NPAPI-based plugins. The game now runs in JSbrowser.

 

And no one is forcing you to subscribe, either. How are they scamming you? Are they literally stealing your money?

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They're probably on a budget and don't have the money to have better tech to create better gameplay and hacking is a whole mess players getting gems easy and stuff which is the small number staff that SoD have for their cheques so for them trying to stop hacking is likely better for both Staff and players alike 

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I'm agreeing with HPowers, hackers and glitches are the major priority of the game. Developpers work hard to have them fixed, yet, sure, it takes time, but be patient. Updates can wait, and sadly, the more updates there is, the more glitches we get. If the developpers don't fix the glitches or even ban hackers and keep adding updates, the game would be carrying so much bugs that it would be almost impossible to play.

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HPowers took the words outta my mouth. I agree that the game should be fixed but hackers shouldn't be left unchecked. Hackers hack in things that normal players have to work hard for to earn in the game, or in Alpha Toothless' case, pay for. So if anything, hackers are one of (or should be) the bigger concerns of the game because they're taking money from them that could be used to make the game run smoothly and get rid of bugs. That being said, do I think it's a higher priority than fixing the game itself? Not at all. I mean, it's not worth throwing your money at a game that you have to kinda cross your fingers and hope it works and even then, when it does work, it's incredibly slow, laggy or filled to the brim with bugs that have been around for years.

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A huge problem of mine is that no one should be aying anything for a game this broken. Trust me when I say this company gets PLENTY of money, absolutly PLENTY and thats NOT why the game is buggy and broken. The reason why the game is buggy and broken is because all the money goes into the pockets of the upper ups and not the game development. I would guess that the amount of money made is split up like this: 90% pocketed and 10% goes back into making the game good. Look at all these other games that charge a minimal amount of money for a monthly subscriotion but are good: World of Warcraft charges 15$ a month I think, and their game has so, so, so, SO much content. Final Fantasy XIV also charges monthly last time I checked. Both of these games have a MUCH higher quality to them. And I understand that this game is a mobile and PC based game but I dont think they should be charging for what I would call "an over glorified browser game". It's a fun game but they need to fix a lot in order to be charging the money they do. 

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A huge problem of mine is

A huge problem of mine is that no one should be aying anything for a game this broken. Trust me when I say this company gets PLENTY of money, absolutly PLENTY and thats NOT why the game is buggy and broken. The reason why the game is buggy and broken is because all the money goes into the pockets of the upper ups and not the game development. I would guess that the amount of money made is split up like this: 90% pocketed and 10% goes back into making the game good. Look at all these other games that charge a minimal amount of money for a monthly subscriotion but are good: World of Warcraft charges 15$ a month I think, and their game has so, so, so, SO much content. Final Fantasy XIV also charges monthly last time I checked. Both of these games have a MUCH higher quality to them. And I understand that this game is a mobile and PC based game but I dont think they should be charging for what I would call "an over glorified browser game". It's a fun game but they need to fix a lot in order to be charging the money they do. 

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It's not like the devs can actually choose for themselves what to add or fix... And it's not like they work at a company where get a salary or something....

Maybe don't randomly assume things like you did in the OP.  It comes over as rather petty.

 

Anyway, whatever weird prio-list they have, they might as well toss it. How many pointer updates have we gotten? Why does the pointer need updating all the time? Is the new one better? Yes. Was it necessary? Absolutely not.

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As someone studying game design and development, and having worked around many many developing companies, I know that they "have the money" and when I say developers I mean ALL developers of the game. They are honest to god just out to get money and they are releasing unfinished products on the regular. Maps that have holes in them, unfinished animation, HORRIBLE CODING. They need to fix what they have already produced in order to start worrying about hacks and stuff like that. 

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As someone who studied videogame design/development and actually worked -- uhh, I don't get what you mean. Are you saying that the other teams like marketing, design, QA and many more are also developers and that they are all equally responsible for choosing what will get added and/or fixed? Because that is not true. Do you really think that people can just pick and choose what to fix or add w/o their managers' input?

 

Don't blame this all on the developers (the actual devs), because it won't work. You're blaming the wrong people.

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also worked in the industry, I'm talking about the whole design team which you would know. This includes the coders, the artists, the modelers, the play-testers, the management for the developers (mainly who I'm directing this at), ect. Every department manager is in charge of their department, so they should be assigning people to do the BASIC bug fixes and glitches that have been persistant throughout the game. And dont even get me started with the modeling and texturing! It's 2019 and this game looks like it was made in 2010. They keep adding more pay-to-play content but they are'nt even improving the quality of what they produce. And yes this is deffinitly an issue with the management/ leaders of the game, but those are developers. Period. 

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You said 'developers'. Not 'game designers' in your other post. I simply corrected you on that. Developer is a term commonly used for the people responsible for building the actual game. The conversion of ideas and material into a game. Not marketing, not design, not QA, not management etc. And again, the developers do not get to pick and choose what they want to fix or add.

 

The game isn't pay to play at all.

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OK butttt......

As someone studying game design and development, and having worked around many many developing companies, I know that they "have the money" and when I say developers I mean ALL developers of the game. They are honest to god just out to get money and they are releasing unfinished products on the regular. Maps that have holes in them, unfinished animation, HORRIBLE CODING. They need to fix what they have already produced in order to start worrying about hacks and stuff like that. I see them focous a LOT on hackers and making sure people cant get their product for free, but when the product is this poor of quality then..... people kind if deserve it for free. 

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But the game is free for everyone who plays it.

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I advertise a "free picnic" yah? A ton of people come. However when they get to the picnic I'm only giving out free hamburger buns. I tell everyone "you can get a free hamburger too, but youre gonna have to come back and check in with me every 15 minutes and maybe I'll give you a hamburger after 10 times of that. But you can also just pay me for the hamburger. And we also have hot dogs, veggie burgers, sandwiches, bacon, and many other things if you just pay me a flat fee every day. You can get all this stuff instead of waiting for it!" See my point? It's not "free to play" its a Freemium game. ALL of the updated content is blocked behind a paywall, and its not even finished product. Youre telling me as someone who also works in the industry, that this game is fine to market and sell? What companies do you/have you worked at? I'm only asking since I can't thinkn of a company (other than jumpstart) that would release such unfinished bad content. Maybe EA lol. And I'm not including stupid apps here. We're talking about an official game based after an award winning series. 

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That is a... confusing and hard-to-follow explanation to say the least.

 

A game with premium currency that also offers you the option to get practically everything but two things (which a lot of people don't even want) for completely free. You either get the thrill of instant gratification by paying or you put in slightly more effort without having to pay a single cent. There is no paywall, there is no huge advantage to paying for the game opposed to playing it for free.

 

I'm not ready to dox myself for a stranger on the internet. I also don't see what my work history has to do with the state of JumpStart.

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Your work history doesnt have anything to do with it as I mentoned. I said I was asking because I was wondering why you'd think this is an acceptable game. It doesnt seem like you understand why I'm calling this a "freemium" game. 

Yes, you can get practically anything you want in the game BUT they make it so hard to do so that paying is the best option. Again all of the new content is blocked behind a paywall. And in regards to your previous statement anyone who works on the game behind the scenes is a developer. Anyone who actually helps make the game that is. 

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"What companies do you/have you worked at? I'm only asking since I can't thinkn of a company (other than jumpstart) that would release such unfinished bad content."

...As you mentioned? Not to mention I never said this was an 'acceptable' game. Please don't put words in my mouth.

 

I don't understand why you're calling it freemium since it doesn't fit the actual textbook definition of freemium. I'm just going by the general definitions here. The only things that would make this game fit the definition of freemium are toothless and nameless- which are actually two things that actually cause people to refrain from subbing, because they don't want them.

 

For the rest, acquiring the premium currency is so laughably easy! I have plenty gems, all the expansions unlocked, the cosmetics I want, and almost every dragon in the game, by barely putting in any effort. There is no paywall in this game.

 

Agree to disagree regarding the developer thing then-- Using the 'dev' umbrella for every job in the game industry confuses insiders. I'm just going with the most common and accepted terminology around the industry. Here's a handy quora that explains it better than I can.

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As much as I don't like hackers I would love to have glitches fixed. The hackers I would worry about most is hackers in TRR otherwise anyone hacking gems or dragons need taking care of but it's not that high or priority. Since their has been a lot more glitches since the last update I really think they should focus on that for the time being.

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