Calling attention to some bullying and harassment!
Yesterday a friend of mine(who wants to remain unnamed)came to me very upset. She's being bullied and harassed by several different players. This has been going on for years. She's reported them multiple times through the in game report option but that hasn't done any good. She's unable to contact support herself and these people choose to visit her and bully her and harass her when no one else is around so unfortunately others can't take screenshots and send them to support either. This friend is very trustworthy and honest so I believe her when she says that this is going on. These players will visit her and start calling her names and just bully and harass her in general. She says it's gotten to the point where she can't really have peace from these people because they're constantly harassing her. She's tried to just ignore them in the hope that they will eventually leave her alone but that hasn't worked. They've even sent spies into her clan to try to destroy the clan from the inside and they even accused her of hacking their clan. She's very against hacking and would never hack. She's never done anything to these players yet they're constantly bullying and harassing her. She wanted me to post this thread as a warning to others to try and be careful around these certain players because she doesn't want what is happening to her to happen to someone else.
The players that are causing the problems are:
- IlJedziaDaxlI
- xZillow
- FoireyStormz
- Ella
- SuperHappyFroggy
If any of you see these players being rude to others, bullying and harassing them, please take screenshots and send them to support. Problematic players have been banned when people create tickets and send screenshots of what's going on.
(Please note that I'm not posting this to cause drama. I don't want drama and a war on this thread. I'm posting this on behalf of a friend that is very upset by a situation that she's going through and wants others to be aware of what these players are capable of doing so they can be cautious around them and hopefully avoid the same thing she's going through.)
I've seen these players around, and I would not be surprised in the slightest if they are doing this. I am a member of a clan these people are targeting, so I'll be sure to capture screenshots if I see any rude behavior from them. This game was made for people to enjoy themselves and to get away from the stresses of life. Harrassment from these players, and others, is absolutely unacceptable. Thank you for looking out for your friend, and I'll be happy to foward any evidence I can gather against these people to you.
I'm so sorry to hear this, I wish your friend the very best. Players like this are horrible, I hope they get banned if possible.
Seeing xZillow's name pop up is quite a surprise, as they're the leader of the clan I just left. IlJedziaDaxlI is also part of the group. Another name I recognise is FoireyStormz, I've raced alongside them many times and got invited to their clan. I know of them both so it's shocking to hear they've been doing such things, as for the other players you've mentioned. Again I'm so sorry. Thank you for posting this, it'll be nice to keep a lookout.
I'm not trying to be insensitive here, but why does she not just remove them from her friends list? The game won't let you visit someone who isn't on your friends list. The clan thing... why not just lock the clan down? Set it to Invite Only, or else Closed. Again, not trying to be insensitive, but the game gives you ways to deal with people like that, so why not apply them?
But thanks for the heads-up. I'll be on the lookout.
Some people are able to visit Vikings regardless if they are on their friends' list or not. I don't know if this has been changed, but I remember a feature where you could teleport to Vikings through searching them in their respective clans; no friendship list required beforehand. And it didn't matter if the Clan was Open for All, Invite Only, or Closed.
I used to do that with some friends when there were friend-list-related bugs. Just search their clan, see their name pop up, and teleport to them so we could hang out.
Or, I could be wrong. I haven't done that in a while since friend lists have been fixed, so idk you might be right.
Oh, okay. I didn't know about that. Evidently, my antisocialness is a thing in-game, too. XD
HPowers and friend,
That is horrible to see and hear about, but, knowing that SoD is literally full of jerks, I am not in the least surprised. I have had so many "friends" and "clanmates" turn out to be horrible enemies that I couldn't even list them all. That's the issues with having internet friends. Some people just don't have a life.
I wish your friend luck, and I'll keep my eye out!
-Kaizar
I'm sorry to hear this, considering the names you have given I'm surprised it needs to stop.
I must say I've never witnessed fiery storm ever to bully anybody.
It's the way someone's true colors will eventually just show and speak for itself for me.
Yeah ive seen some of these people fighting with others but i normally arrive during the middle of it so i dont know who stsrted it or why. But ill try and find some of these people.
I am so sorry to hear that your friend had to go through this, Powers. It's a shame that SoD doesn't have a proper block feature (being unable to visit the person in question through clan/seeing them in game/reading their chat), so I can agree that this was the proper decision to make on your part.
Having seen most of these players in game, I can vouch for your friend as I have myself noticed them to be rude troublemakers. It's a genuine shock to see FoireyStormz's name on there though: I always thought she was a sweet person, but I guess I misjudged her. Sad to say but this behaviour definitely does not reflect well on UnConquerable, the clan she leads as well.
My clanmates and I have had our own share of problems with xZillow and co., wherein just a few days ago we spotted them spreading false rumours about GH/BG, having falsely claimed to have corresponded with our clan leaders. I have screenshot proof, but I do not wish to post them here as I do not want to divert the topic from the original problem at hand. This was just to confirm their bad reputation.
Please tell your friend to take care on my behalf, and I sincerely hope the admins take notice of this thread. Thanks for putting this out there again. <3
Ugh, sounds like jealousy to me. I'm glad I left xZillow's clan, then.
Would you mind sending me the screenshots? It's okay if not, I would've just liked to have seen for myself. I knew these guys and although I had nothing to do with their little shenanigans I still feel pretty bad. Really ruined their reputation loll
It's not a surprise to see that such a thing is happening once again in this game because of the surprisingly low amount of security when it comes to School of Dragons. Though I am even more surprised to see Foirey on this list, JedziaDax as well but that is to be expected. In fact it got me to wondering what was going on about it, so I had a little chat with Foirey and this is what she had to say.
Oh, I can vouch on the Viking spies alright. This is a real thing that, surprisingly, no one seems to talk about as much as other matters. And Jesus, have they been a problem for a long while now.
I wasn't aware on Dragonborn's allegations on calling Limitless hackers. That's a new one for me. Especially since I've had her in my friends' list for over two years now. I'd want to believe this isn't true, but if it is... Truly sad, seeing I've only kept it hacker-free since the very beginning.
*Sighs*. Just the Internet being the Internet, am I right?
Does Foirey know that there are many, many players that will come to HPower's defense, let alone one of her own friends? HPowers is a veteran of the game and has a lot of experience in the game dealing with many different things. Of all the things to happen in the tenure of this game, HPowers has gone through it all.
So, if you or any one that knows this Foirey... Why doesn't she come on the forum or this thread and give her side, or maybe in pms too?
Thanks Drums! That means a lot. :D
Foirey's been keeping track of this thread and having people deliver messages for her and one of her friends has let her use their account a couple of times to post replies but there hasn't been any solid evidence against Shadow given.
I am not quite sure myself honestly, perhaps its just due to how getting a forum account works (since sometimes it can take ages). Though you are most certainly correct about pms, which would be more beneficial for the forum itself due to seeing how this thread exploded.
And no, I dont know who of Foirey's friends is lending their aid on this. Veteran or not, it appears that doesn't quite nullify a flame war it seems.
I never intended, nor did I want, this thread to turn into drama. I even specifically stated that in my initial post. I honestly really don't like that the thread blew up the way it did. My sole intention was to help out a friend who came to me really upset. I wasn't trying to start drama. I'd never do that.
(Just wanted to make that clear.)
Hi dearest people on the forums,
To begin with,im going to be very neutral about this and a do not want to start a drama so sit back and enjoy:)
Firstly im so sorry for any player who is suffering from this bullying and drama,it is really tiring,painful and far too exaggerated at times.Although you do not want to reveal her name,i can make a guess that it was DragonbornOfShadows, leader of the nightlght racers,a clan i was once in for a period of time.Due to the fact that i do not want to start a drama on this as said above ,ill just leave it as it is here.
Secondly,i seem to know that ella is actually lola,a person who is a drama queen.Although i have never talked to her before,i have seen her in the past starting a drama out of nowhere and was really contridictory.This is because i have been in 2 instances where the 1st being that she said that she will not be touching any EA members and there she was giving friend requests to them for a while and the 2nd being that she was exaggering the whole situation to my clan leader Yon to kick someone out of EA for hacking.
I am not going to say anything about firey and froggy because i dont know them from jack.
I am also not going to say anything about Jed either because i dont know her well enough
Finally,regarding xZillow who is my friend for a long period of time.To start off,i have known the rumours he said that his clan points and rankings were frozen due to the nightlight racers hacking his clan because they seem to hate him and his clan .I have told him before that it is not true and just let it go because all the clans faced this issue at this time.It took me a really long time to convince him but he finally acknowlegded it so i think that should be over.In fact,regarding killjoys point he told me on a side account about him corresponding with GH and BG and that if his clan Forever Gone or FG for short that if they get to top 10 in the clan leaderboard and GH and BG will ally with them and he wants to hard grind trophies.I have no idea if if this is true or not so i have written to him on an online chatting platform to varify this.As of the time i am writting this,he has not responded to me and ill provide an update later.Because i dont want a drama to happen or to involve EA in this,i have left FG on my side.
To end off,i would like to reinterate H Powers point that if u face any bullying or drama,pls go and create a ticket to support,it is the fastest way to solve it or just tell someone u know and trust about it if u cannot send a ticket or if u are too scared if that person is going to do all sorts of things to u.Thanks for coming to my TED talk and have a good day!:)
I feel the need to add a comment to this thread and include firstly information coming from my clan as a leader of it and secondly my general opinion regarding this topic.
Lola as far as i remember was in my opinion loud chatter in SoD i believe some of you may have came across her, i am familiar with the fact that she has multiple side accounts and that she might be that ella person, but whats more important is the backstory of her not so long lasting relationship with Ethereal Aura. Few months ago while clan was highly active she was added to the clan, not so long after chat clanmates caught her writing in chat about how she is planing to hack into someones account, as soon as i found that i have had a conversation with her and few clan elders after which we decided she has to leave the clan considering that she is planning to break a game and a clan rule. Ever since that she has so called "beef" with EA members.
Regarding this general situation I am truly sorry anyone had to go throught bullying in this game, i am sorry, but i am indeed not surprised since im familiar with this community. What I am also familiar with is names mentioned and in HPowers thread and all I have to say is that i truly believe you and in fact i am not surprised to see any of the names mentioned on the list.
As I haven't been in EA for very long as I am fairly new to the clan (heard of u guys when I was playing back in 2018 or somethin), I did not know about any drama :0
Sorry to hear about the bullying to your friend my dearest HPowers :cc
Side note: Aren't you glad clan boards are fixed my dear sir? :D
Actually EA is not older than a year and half tho, it was created at the beginning of 2021, I am indeed very happy to see progress in clan points it was about time xd
Yeah and I'm glad our clan points have made us risen to 12th place now that clan board points are finally fixed. I'm amazed at how a very young clan has already risen this high in such little time. Tbh so many clans are dead these days (GH still holds the number 1 spot however only a few are active these days and many newer clans are slowly creeping up the leaderboard)
As I started in 2017 or 2018 (I'll have to look on my main to see when I adopted my Sand Wraith to see when I started), I missed the COC stuff and I was still VERYYYYY new to the game (gosh I miss the old graphics and stuff - except aLcHeMy AdVeNtUrE) and had no idea about clans and how they worked, would the ppl like me? etc. I even had no clue how to age my dragons up properly (I wasted sooooo many gems). I remember the toothless armour, deathsong armour and briefly some of the others too but I was poor then and ye now it is gone ;w;
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sorry posted twice
I often race with JedziaDax but we never chat.
Regarding the last player SuperHappyFroggy so it is a well-known player who provokes drama. There's even evidence of his behavior, and I can easily put them here. The player's behavior was targeted to one of my friends who ended up in SoD because he was afraid of this player. I wrote him to contact Support SoD but he didn't because he doesn't believe it's over. (He meant that even if Support SoD removed the already mentioned player, he would create a new account and continue what he was doing)
Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the rest of the players, I'm just sorry that there are players among us who make life uncomfortable for others.
Post update - Proof of behavior towards my friend (yes it's a few months old and it's not about Hpowers' friend but you can see how SuperHappyFroggy behaves and what he does) link : https://youtu.be/ZJaBDNfyPIc
Thanks for your support everyone! It means a lot!
To address what Jy said and Foirey's message to me:
To be quite honest, I expected the reported players to get involved. That's what usually happens when people get reported for their behavior. There's a reason Shadow didn't want her name used. She was afraid the bullying would get worse if her name was used. I completely understand this. It's a common fear of victims of bullying that if they speak up the bullying will get worse and unfortunately in some cases it does because the bullies are angry that they got called out and told on. She wasn't trying to hide anything; she was simply afraid the bullying would become worse.
As far as the claims that she's caused drama and called people and clans hackers because she couldn't beat them, I don't believe that. I've raced Shadow many times and she's a very good racer. She always does really well and she isn't a sore loser. Me and her just had a talk the other day about how we enjoy racing with each other because we each view the other as a nice racer and there are a lot of sore losers out there who take the fun out of things. I'd like to take a moment to mention something that I forgot to mention in my initial post and Foirey's outrageous comment and Zahrianna talking about xZillow and co spreading false rumors jogged my memory: The reported people are also spreading lies and rumors about Shadow to try to turn people against her. Something I very much believe. Foirey's comment is an obvious attempt at trying to turn people against Shadow. Just so Foirey knows, I do say that Shadow is trustworthy and no, that doesn't mean that I believe all those clans mentioned are hackers. I have friends in those clans and I know that they don't hack.
I would post proof if I could. However, as I mentioned before these people are choosing to visit Shadow when no one is around and it's an empty chat/server, therefore, no one else sees it. I believe Shadow when she says that's what they're doing. To be honest, it's not surprising in the least. It's typical bully behavior- target the victim when no one else can see it so if they do speak up then the bullies can say "You have no proof."
I'm not about to stand by and see Shadow bullied and lied on. I know that she's not the one doing the bullying and that people are lieing on her to try to turn others against her. The fact that Foirey is saying she's defending herself and the other people who've been reported from slander when others on this thread have vouched that they've seen at least some of the mentioned people causing problems is proof to me that she's trying to lie on Shadow to turn people against her because she doesn't like that her and the others got reported for their behavior. Also, just so these people know, the SoD staff has access to everyone's chat logs. It's very easy for them to look at what they've been saying in chat so if they think they can get by with stuff, they can't.
Edit: (I realize that some of what I said above probably comes across as kinda irritable, maybe even a bit aggresive. I was irritated while typing it out. I'm trying to conduct myself in a respectable, mature manner throughout this but I was definitely irritated while typing all of that(except for thanking you guys for the support, of course, wasn't irritated while typing that XD). I probably should've cooled off for a minute so I wouldn't have come across as so irritable.)
Edit 2: Wanted to make clear that I wasn't irritated with Jy. I mentioned him because I was explaining why no screenshots had been posted and both him and Foirey had mentioned that. I was irritated by Foirey. Her message came across as rather rude to me and I didn't like what she said about Shadow because I don't believe any of it.
Edit 3(Sorry for all the edits): Shadow has been keeping track of this thread and she told me that she never called any of those clans hackers, it's just another lie about her, which I already knew. As I said before, she isn't a sore loser. She doesn't cry "hacker" if someone beats her.
Hpowers,
Apologies you didn’t think my comment was modest enough. And it was well of you to expect us to get involved, seeing as you are making claims with no real proof other than a friend who you believe as trustworthy and honest told you so. Im not doubting you believe she is honest, it’s just the fact that it is rarely the case one should have the means to believe a claim, based on second hand information from one person; especially when one has zero proof. You say it’s because she says we supposedly do it when no one is around, but anyone can make that claim. What makes hers more believable than anyone else’s. Beelzebuvb could come to me and say “Shadow bully’s me. I don’t have proof but that’s becuz no one is around when it happens” and if I told y’all that, would you not want the proof? Or would u be fine with it if I reassure y’all it’s the truth because I trust Beel, and know how honest she is (DISCLOSURE: she hasn’t said anything like this, none of us have, it’s simply an example). If you say that you don’t need proof and you would believe it, then where exactly does the line get drawn? Should all just start blindly believing every claim thrown at us because a friend thinks highly of them?
You say my comment obviously is trying to get people to turn on Shadow, and while you can call it what you want, it doesn’t negate the truth that it is just the other side of the story. The side shadow doesn’t want to exist, or want other people to see, because quite frankly, it doesn’t make her look quite as innocent as she would like. I can fairly say however that I cannot vouch for anyone except for one other besides myself, as I don’t know any of the others very well. I can vouch that Jedza though is a nice person and personally couldn’t see them bullying shadow, or have a reason to bully her for that matter. I did notice in the vouching comments above they were mainly aimed towards happyfrog, Ella, and xZillow. Notice some of them say they are shocked or surprised my name is on there? Perhaps that’s because for one, I’ve been inactive for months up until a few weeks before thawfest. Two, I stay in trr pop out in tg for battles, and farm. Three, I only talk to Clanmates, and maybe a friend like Jedza if I run across them. Four, I haven’t bullied anyone before.
Can I also mention that I lead a fairly successful top clan of amazing people. Why would I bully shadow? It wouldn’t gain me anything, rather it would just make the clan look bad. Is it because she claims I ‘hate her’? So does forgiving someone for calling you a hacker count as hating? Personally seems gracious to me. I didn’t have to forgive her. She put my clan in jeopardy. I did tell her I didn’t think we could ever be close friends again however, since for months she told everyone I hacked. Can you truthfully say to my face you would want to be besties with a person who spent months spreading stuff about you? If you do, that’s on you, but that doesn’t mean I do. Surely you can at least see that not wanting a friendship with someone who tried to destroy your reputation and clan isn’t rude, rather quite justified.
Best,
FieryStormz
I can’t speak for the rest and never wanted to intervene but this has affected a friend and clan I care about. I’m here to address the accusations towards FoireyStormz with regards to this post.
“These players will visit her and start calling her names and just bully her in general...She’s tried to just ignore them in the hope that they will eventually leave her alone but that hasn’t worked.”
- According to Foirey, she has only visited her when they were friends. This was long ago; she hasn’t visited her since.
“She’s never done anything to these players...”
- Exhibit A: Old screenshots. Last year.
- Exhibit B: Recent screenshot. April. EclipseEchoes, member of DragonbornofShadows’ clan (TNLR), talks about FoieryStormz and UC. What you see EclipseEchoes saying about Foirey and UC is what DragonbornofShadows feeds her clanmates.
> To address what’s in the screenshot, UC doesn’t hack nor does Foirey lie about other clans. Indeed, Foirey may speak when she feels that there is a need, but she does not lie. Should anyone have proof otherwise, come forth.
- Exhibit C: Another recent screenshot. Also April.
> Alright dissection 2.0 here we go.
>> “At every battle UC’s leader insults TNLR and every time I find her in racing, attacks me.”
- I go online for almost every battle everyday including those way past my bedtime. Within these periods, I have never seen Foirey insult TNLR. If she did (which never happened) I would have told her to stop as I do not condone such behavior. As for racing (where I am also active), every time I’ve seen them race against each other, I have never seen them talk. Though if by ‘attacks’, DragonbornofShadows means using traps and boosting, that should be allowed as players should be free to do whatever they want in a race (except hack of course).
>> “They call us slow and not worthy to be a top clan.”
- I am an elder of UC. Foirey doesn’t talk about DragonbornofShadows or TNLR anywhere, not in the clan board, not in discord, and not even in dms. Neither do we. Ask anyone who’s been in UC— elder or member, they can confirm this. The name ‘DragonbornofShadows’ has only entered our convos since the time of this topic’s posting.
HPowers, this is not an attack towards you as I do (1) acknowledge DragonbornofShadow's feelings and (2) respect and admire you for looking after and speaking out for a friend. But so am I.
Sorry for um not knowing this but what is UC short for? Just wondering.
Hello people, I haven't posted before as I didn't have anything to say, but I'm here now for this.
um I'm not very good at words but this means a lot to me so please bare with me if some stuff I say isn't greatly worded.
This is all just my opinion as I don't have any 'proof' but as it's firsthand you may listen to me better than HPowers.
now I know you all keep saying to not believe anything without proof but I'm just here to say my thoughts, as I am someone who has had firsthand experience in this situation.
for "exhibit A"
the first two pictures: I was there that day even though my name isn't in the chat. You are taking this as Shadow attacking other clans, but in reality she was frustrated and trying to defend herself from their attacks.
notice Shadow said "she's getting as bad as (other player)" meaning Shadow is not the one who started this.
If she was attacking Fiery with no reason (which she wasn't attacking, she was defending, and she did this now because she had people around who could help gather proof.) she would not say Fiery was getting worse.
the third picture is a different instance, as can be proved by the different background, (first two are farm, this one is hideout.) how does Torah having an idea condemn Shadow in any way whatsoever? If anything you MIGHT use this as proof against Torah, but not Shadow.
As for "exhibit B"
Yes that is me speaking. But I'm not saying things Shadow has "fed me" I'm speaking from my own opinion and my own experience. I'm sorry if it offends anyone but yes I do believe fiery hacks.I believe I've seen her doing it. Shadow has nothing to do with this opinion.
I wasn't telling someone who didn't want to hear my opinion either, the person asked three times for my opinion before I gave it. Perhaps if you didn't black out some of the messages you would have seen me say that what I said was my opinion and not to be taken as solid truth?
also, this happened only a few days before HPowers posted this.. not in April. so maybe fiery's memory isn't as great as she thinks. (Not that my memory is perfect :p)
In fact after the person was
"exhibit C" I believe I was there that day but I don't have a solid memory of it so I won't say I was there that day. BUT.
I have seen fiery and at least one other member of UC insult TNLR at a battle at least twice with my own eyes
i (pardon the bold i I can't change it) have also seen fiery attack shadow in racing at least once, again with my own eyes.
Disclaimer: this is all an OPINION no one attack me for lying about anything and please everyone just think about what I'm saying. No one ask for proof from me because I'm unable to take screenshots.
I'm also writing this hurriedly so don't mind my grammar, or other, mistakes.
I'm only gonna say one thing abotu this, I won't say anything abotu you assuming firey hacks cause I know squat about that and I don't know her all tha long but you could you elaborate on "insulting your clan"? only cause it depends on the insult if it was more along the lines of, maliciousness toward, then I won't complain but if it is just saying that her clan is better... I'm not sure that is more so an 'insult" so much as more along the lines of trash talk.
My in game name: NorbuttNorston (yep it is
Really old post by now lol. Pls no one reply to this, this is only to answer Nors question.
when I say insults I mean, they say they're better than us, (ik this is just trash talk in your opinion, and yes they are higher in top clans and both TNLR and UC vary in whose better at battles month to month) but it's the fact that it is said in extremely rude ways, with much swearing/cussing involved in it, they've said that TNLR didn't deserve to be a top clan, and called the whole of TNLR worthless. also made fun of anything any recognizable TNLR says. (They've mocked me for my warcry several times. I know it's stupid and is funny, that's the reason for it ppl, but they don't need to make fun of it and mock me for it, still including the swears, let alone other TNLRs they do the same to.
This has all been in front of me, I'm not saying what anyone has told me. No one ask for screenshots because again, I can't take any.
Hello people, I haven't posted before as I didn't have anything to say, but I'm here now for this.
um I'm not very good at words but this means a lot to me so please bare with me if some stuff I say isn't greatly worded.
This is all just my opinion as I don't have any 'proof' but as it's firsthand you may listen to me better than HPowers.
now I know you all keep saying to not believe anything without proof but I'm just here to say my thoughts, as I am someone who has had firsthand experience in this situation.
for "exhibit A"
the first two pictures: I was there that day even though my name isn't in the chat. You are taking this as Shadow attacking other clans, but in reality she was frustrated and trying to defend herself from their attacks.
notice Shadow said "she's getting as bad as (other player)" meaning Shadow is not the one who started this.
If she was attacking Fiery with no reason (which she wasn't attacking, she was defending, and she did this now because she had people around who could help gather proof.) she would not say Fiery was getting worse.
the third picture is a different instance, as can be proved by the different background, (first two are farm, this one is hideout.) how does Torah having an idea condemn Shadow in any way whatsoever? If anything you MIGHT use this as proof against Torah, but not Shadow.
As for "exhibit B"
Yes that is me speaking. But I'm not saying things Shadow has "fed me" I'm speaking from my own opinion and my own experience. I'm sorry if it offends anyone but yes I do believe fiery hacks.I believe I've seen her doing it. Shadow has nothing to do with this opinion.
I wasn't telling someone who didn't want to hear my opinion either, the person asked three times for my opinion before I gave it. Perhaps if you didn't black out some of the messages you would have seen me say that what I said was my opinion and not to be taken as solid truth?
also, this happened only a few days before HPowers posted this.. not in April. so maybe fiery's memory isn't as great as she thinks. (Not that my memory is perfect :p)
In fact after the person was
"exhibit C" I believe I was there that day but I don't have a solid memory of it so I won't say I was there that day. BUT.
I have seen fiery and at least one other member of UC insult TNLR at a battle at least twice with my own eyes
i (pardon the bold i I can't change it) have also seen fiery attack shadow in racing at least once, again with my own eyes.
Disclaimer: this is all an OPINION no one attack me for lying about anything and please everyone just think about what I'm saying. No one ask for proof from me because I'm unable to take screenshots.
I'm also writing this hurriedly so don't mind my grammar, or other, mistakes.
Hello people, I haven't posted before as I didn't have anything to say, but I'm here now for this.
um I'm not very good at words but this means a lot to me so please bare with me if some stuff I say isn't greatly worded.
This is all just my opinion as I don't have any 'proof' but as it's firsthand you may listen to me better than HPowers.
now I know you all keep saying to not believe anything without proof but I'm just here to say my thoughts, as I am someone who has had firsthand experience in this situation.
for "exhibit A"
the first two pictures: I was there that day even though my name isn't in the chat. You are taking this as Shadow attacking other clans, but in reality she was frustrated and trying to defend herself from their attacks.
notice Shadow said "she's getting as bad as (other player)" meaning Shadow is not the one who started this.
If she was attacking Fiery with no reason (which she wasn't attacking, she was defending, and she did this now because she had people around who could help gather proof.) she would not say Fiery was getting worse.
the third picture is a different instance, as can be proved by the different background, (first two are farm, this one is hideout.) how does Torah having an idea condemn Shadow in any way whatsoever? If anything you MIGHT use this as proof against Torah, but not Shadow.
As for "exhibit B"
Yes that is me speaking. But I'm not saying things Shadow has "fed me" I'm speaking from my own opinion and my own experience. I'm sorry if it offends anyone but yes I do believe fiery hacks.I believe I've seen her doing it. Shadow has nothing to do with this opinion.
I wasn't telling someone who didn't want to hear my opinion either, the person asked three times for my opinion before I gave it. Perhaps if you didn't black out some of the messages you would have seen me say that what I said was my opinion and not to be taken as solid truth?
also, this happened only a few days before HPowers posted this.. not in April. so maybe fiery's memory isn't as great as she thinks. (Not that my memory is perfect :p)
In fact after the person was
"exhibit C" I believe I was there that day but I don't have a solid memory of it so I won't say I was there that day. BUT.
I have seen fiery and at least one other member of UC insult TNLR at a battle at least twice with my own eyes
i (pardon the bold i I can't change it) have also seen fiery attack shadow in racing at least once, again with my own eyes.
Disclaimer: this is all an OPINION no one attack me for lying about anything and please everyone just think about what I'm saying. No one ask for proof from me because I'm unable to take screenshots.
I'm also writing this hurriedly so don't mind my grammar, or other, mistakes.
Gosh can't this site work and not double post or triple post it all ugh
Try clicking the save button only once. It can take a while for the page to load and post your reply. Sometimes it will take so long that it will say "verification expired"(I've been having that problem a lot lately for some reason). Before trying to post your comment/thread again, open a new tab and see if your comment/thread actually posted. A lot of the time it's actually been posted.
Hi there!
I'm sorry to hear your friend is experiencing problems with other players like this. We don't tolerate harassment or bullying. If your friend is having issues with these players, you already have the right idea: I would strongly suggest writing a ticket to support about them. I don't have access to them so I can't check the chat logs myself, but if you send a ticket and explain what was said and when, someone can check the chat logs and take action on those players so your friend can continue to enjoy the game.
Again, I'm sorry to hear this is happening. Please send a ticket and we'll investigate the offending accounts. If the accounts are found to be bullying and/or harassing other players, they'll have action taken against them.
Honestly, I think the past should stay in the past. That includes old screenshots that don't really prove anything(I mean if she had had enough of what was going on then sure she might say something)and disagreements/arguements/misunderstandings/what have you that may have happened and have since been resolved. I'm also not inclined to believe that Shadow would maliciously feed her clan lies about others. With that being said, I'm not arguing about this with anyone. I wish I had screenshot proof; I really do. I have always been a big supporter of having proof, but, unfortunately, proof can't be given this time and because of that this has turned into a "one person's word against another person's" type of thing. I said at the beginning that I didn't want this thread turning into drama and war and I meant it so I feel the best thing to do about it now is let the SoD staff handle it. I'm sure everyone can agree that's the best thing that can be done because "she said/did this, they said/did this" isn't really getting us anywhere. I'm going to be creating a ticket and hopefully they can look through the chat logs and see what's been said/what's been done and that will put this whole thing to rest. I sincerely appreciate those of you who have given support to this and have supported me that I've tried to do the right thing by calling attention to this.
@UnstoppableShadow: UC stands for Unconquerable which is a clan.
@Goony: Thanks! I unfortunately can't say what was said and when because I don't really know all the details and this has been happening frequently over the course of a few years, according to my friend Shadow. I'll send a ticket any way and see what can be done. Thanks again! :)
Ok thanks.
You're welcome :)
Can I just make an observation here.
Shadows claims barely have any detail. Plus my clanmates and I have noticed her stories slightly change from one person to another. She can rarely get all her details in line. While I'm not saying all her claims are false, I simply wanted to point out how dry they always are.
I would also like to address (once again) why the need for Shadow'sname was necessary. Shadow has been known to create random drama, twist stories to benefit her, and spread rumors as far as an eye can see. Not only did I have evidence which was posted above, if it's not enough for you, you can throw a rock and hit someone who can agree with the statement. In fact, I had someone come to me yesterday saying as soon as they saw it was shadow, they knew it was all 'fake' (wont use the real word they used). Without this information, many people were believing the claims with lack of evidence, because Hpowers is quite well known, and respected by many. Perhaps the irresponsible thing here, was Shadow wanting to make a post about this 'bullying'. Why didn't she just ask Hpowers to create a ticket in the first place. Why make a post that surely is going to cause a bit of an uproar? Hpowers said she expected replies from those getting blamed. After all, Who wouldn't defend their name in the face of a claim with zero evidence, not even evidence from word of mouth by other people. While some of the blamed did have quite a few vouching they've seen these people being rude, bullying others, etc; I had none. (Personally wouldn't call 'it doesn't surprise me to see their name" a true vouch)
The Evidence that my friend posted I'm not quite sure how you can say is not good evidence. Nor is it easily possible to take those out of context as she literally mentions UC, or my name in them (maybe you just happened to miss that?)
I would finally like to get to the part that actually quite confused me, which was the main reason for even replying. In the one part you say "FoireyStomz claimed she harassed and was once a member of one of the mentioned clans. (She is currently working to get said clan leaders to directly state this, I believe.)" Im sorry to burst you bubble, but I have Never made such a claim as I know for a fact, she has never been in any of those clans I listed above. As far as my knowledge goes, she's only ever been in TNLR. Nor have I been in Kahoots with any of those clan leaders about this particular subject matter.
As for your double standard mention. That is a valid point. I do not have psychical evidence of those particular circumstances currently. So if you choose not to believe those parts, then I cannot say anything about that. However I would like to mention that most of those clans mentioned above have members, elders, or friends of theirs who have heard Shadow calling some of their top racers in their clan hackers before. Whether any of them would like to get involved and back that up here is their choice. Quite frankly, I wouldn't blame anyone who doesn't want to get involved in a forum squabble.
Best,
FoireyStormz
Umm wait are you FoireyStormz or is she your friend?
First to answer your question unstoppable, friend's account she let me (Fierystormz) use for this last comment. The stuff with the screenshots she posted, and the comment before that, she posted for me.
I also wanted to add an edit to my last msg (wouldnt let me) but zFearlessGlytch is not happyfrog.
-Fierystormz
Forgot to edit that FearlessGlytch is NOT SuperHappyFroggy and now it will not let me edit the original post. Sorry about that.
WHO DARES TO DISRESPECT MY CLANLEADER!? Sorry for the caps, had to get that out there...
Anyway...
Hmm, the players that HPowers mentioned... I THINK I saw them before...but I'm not sure. I'll be sure to keep an eye out when I'm able to play again! Thanks for letting us know!
Just wanted to say that I do very much agree with Kersed's statement that a double standard is going on here. What I'm seeing is "How dare you report people without evidence, that's slander!" but then the same is being done to Shadow. There's been a lot posted about her but with no solid evidence to back it up. I don't like seeing that double standard. I also agree with Kersed that the posted screenshots don't prove that Shadow is maliously attacking people/clans. It could easily be argued that she's fed up with the situation and so she was venting, someone saw it and decided to screenshot it to make her look bad. There's no solid proof that she's the one instigating anything. I don't see her forgetting details/dates as proof that she's lieing either. We all forget things. I have to write myself notes all the time about things because if I don't I'll forget. Our kitchen calendar has all kinds of stuff written on it so we don't forget about it: doctor's appointments, book/dvd release dates, ect. As I said yesterday, this "he said/she said" stuff is getting us nowhere. The thread has served its purpose and I think it's at the point where the staff should handle it.
After all this time I returned to this thread and have never seen so much BS
People who have spoken are on new accounts (jarl) and not one of them is the person who's names where mentioned.....amazing.
Is It easier to let everybody else do the talking for you? while we all defend ourselves on our main so do most of us?
Dont tell me these people mentioned don't have forum.....when they have discord, instagrams, twitter and every other social media BS out there that exists.
After reading this thread I find this the most offensive, cowardly, disrespectful and immature way to have dealt with a problem.
Hpowers you have always been so mature, polite, very patient and understanding with your reply's and I thank you for that.
There's obviously a reason that you have come out and defended your friend in a mature way, and you can walk away holding your head up high.
Can I just say, as a person who has had the worst time tryna get a forum account (which is why my friend gave me hers) that it is indeed quite a hassle and time consuming (by that I mean it takes forever for approval) to get an account here. Also, while I can't speak for others, I personally have never had a reason before to get an account XD So could be another reason why most of the people mentioned here do not have an account.
Side note: for anyone who gets confused reading this, yes this is my official account now. No I don't have my actual name, but you can read my poorly done siggy
edit: my siggy isn't showing :, dis is FieryStormz btw
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Em is correct when she says that people don't have to be on your friends list for you to visit them. You can visit people through their clan too. All you have to do is search a person's clan, find them listed in the clan members, click on their name, and then visit them. That's what these people are doing.
As far as the clan goes, I'm not certain of all the details, but my guess is that the person faked interest in joining the clan so they were let in. I'm pretty sure I've heard of that happening to other clans before. Someone will fake interest in joining because they're trying to destroy the clan.